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Zounds Perspex wrote:One day an Electrical Guitar Company baritone will be mine. Far from cheap, though.

Gibson makes a Les Paul Baritone, but it hasn't been around long enough to find one used, which is the only way it would be close to worth the money.

Rondo Music also makes baris that are around $400, but at $450 for the Sidejack with trem, that's tough to beat.

Yeah, I think an ECG would be perfect, but hot damn. So expensive...

I want a set neck guitar for that added sustain and over all darkness in tone compared to a bolt-on. The fender baritones look cool, but don't think they'd work for me.

The mike mushok thang sounds cool, but oh god the silverburst. I feel like I'd be doomed to play in a 90's alt rock cover band with a silverburst guitar.

Zounds Perspex wrote:Gibson makes a Les Paul Baritone, but it hasn't been around long enough to find one used, which is the only way it would be close to worth the money.

I got to play a epiphone bari lp goth once, kickass guitar

WeHuntKings wrote:

Zounds Perspex wrote:One day an Electrical Guitar Company baritone will be mine. Far from cheap, though.

Gibson makes a Les Paul Baritone, but it hasn't been around long enough to find one used, which is the only way it would be close to worth the money.

Rondo Music also makes baris that are around $400, but at $450 for the Sidejack with trem, that's tough to beat.

Yeah, I think an ECG would be perfect, but hot damn. So expensive...

I want a set neck guitar for that added sustain and over all darkness in tone compared to a bolt-on. The fender baritones look cool, but don't think they'd work for me.

The mike mushok thang sounds cool, but oh god the silverburst. I feel like I'd be doomed to play in a 90's alt rock cover band with a silverburst guitar.

the EGCs are far from dark. as near as I can tell, they're balanced, though, with lots of ALL the frequencies.
I don't think you'd need to worry too much about any bari being too bright - it just doesn't happen much with those frequencies.
plus, you know...eq. maybe even flatwounds.

Maybe bright isn't the word. I dunno. There's definitely a difference in the way say, a tele and an sg with p90's sounds. And not just because of the pickups. The neck construction has a lot to do with it imo.

Seeing live videos of the Melvins, buzzo has one of those ECGs, it defintely has a crazy full frequency response. That aluminum body gives it an almost chorusy-doubled type sound.

Fender Jaguar custom baritone are really nice,

someone know where I could find one of those baritone neck

(28.5" scale-length neck with 22frets)


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WeHuntKings wrote:Maybe bright isn't the word. I dunno. There's definitely a difference in the way say, a tele and an sg with p90's sounds. And not just because of the pickups. The neck construction has a lot to do with it imo.

Seeing live videos of the Melvins, buzzo has one of those ECGs, it defintely has a crazy full frequency response. That aluminum body gives it an almost chorusy-doubled type sound.

right, but despite the neck construction, pickups, body wood, etc - I've never heard a Bass VI, say, sound too bright or snappy. ever heard Tweak Bird? Bass VI getting heavy heavy.

I read somewhere that Fender might be reissue-ing the bass VI

Zounds Perspex wrote:Gibson makes a Les Paul Baritone, but it hasn't been around long enough to find one used, which is the only way it would be close to worth the money.

I got this right around when it came out as I had been on a baritone quest for a while. It's priced similarly to a regular LP Studio, but it's not too common, at least not around these Eurotrash parts. Worth the money to me, especially considering how very few baritones are available. In the US I would've tried the Agile one first because it's too damn cheap not to.

Fuzz_Pi wrote:Not to be a dick but cant u downtune any guitar to B standard and have it be baritone

Did that, it doesn't compare to a true baritone. The playability is a lot better with the longer neck, worth it for sure.
Added bonus, I was playing bass quite a bit and the switch from bass to guitar made it seem like my guitar shrank each time I touched it. The baritone neck is where, after playing bass, I expect the guitar neck to be.

im lazy and just buy 7 string sets and drop the high string.

Plenty of heavy metal people just drop their normal guitars down to baritone tuning and it sounds fine. I feel like my strat probably would buzz or not stay in tune if I dropped it down another step or 2 from C. Maybe a tune-o-matic bridge equipped instrument is what I need?

7 string guitars have intrigued me too, but they all look so stereotypically metalz with the pointy headstocks and extreme cutaways. The only company I have seen so far that makes somewhat classy looking 7 strings is Schecter, actually. The hellraiser looks sexy.

Gunner Recall wrote:Hagstrom announced the viking baritone at namm this weekend.
Hollow bari? Want.

Yesss:!!!:

Just using this thread as an excuse to post my wonderful friends. Also, note how incredibly mellow that Bass VI sounds.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCacJDZdLP0[/youtube]

I love those people.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLHz9r-Th4[/youtube]

This thing sounds rad. And looks cool as fuuuck too.

WeHuntKings wrote:The mike mushok thang sounds cool, but oh god the silverburst. I feel like I'd be doomed to play in a 90's alt rock cover band with a silverburst guitar.

sweetwater claims there's a "brown burst" version coming, which I think looks pretty okay. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SEMMBB/

WeHuntKings wrote:Plenty of heavy metal people just drop their normal guitars down to baritone tuning and it sounds fine. I feel like my strat probably would buzz or not stay in tune if I dropped it down another step or 2 from C. Maybe a tune-o-matic bridge equipped instrument is what I need?

Before I knew that baritone guitars were a thing around 1996 I had a Deftones-ish band. My other guitarist (playing a Jackson) and I (USA Fender Strat) tuned down two whole steps to C standard, then another step on the low string to "dropped D" tuning, which made it A sharp. We used strings that were .013-.056 and had them intonated that way. I had the trem of the Strat rooted so it wouldn't move, we played the shit out of those guitars and were never out of tune. So a strat can definitely handle that tuning and will sound great/no buzz if it is set up to do so.

From the other extreme, my main instrument now is my short-scale Univox hi-flyer bass, with super light bass strings, tuned up a fifth (from bottom: BEAD). I have to buy a six-string set of bass strings and toss the low B and E. I love it, it sounds like piano cables, and with fuzz it's HUGE.