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I like about 13 of those records......

i love that he lists the pistols over the clash. i totally agree with his reasoning too.
awesome to see aerosmith rocks on there. NICE!

Kurt Cobain wrote:I'm gonna get a Folkways tattoo next to my Black Flag tattoo.

Fuck yes.

Great list.

masked elwood wrote:i love that he lists the pistols over the clash. i totally agree with his reasoning too.
awesome to see aerosmith rocks on there. NICE!

His reasoning about the Pistols being a band steeped in sincerity and authenticity?

I can't help taking everything kurt cobain says with a grain of salt.... As a matter of fact, a fucking truck load of salt.... actually, a boatload so big my doctor would slap me and hand me the neerest bottle of hydrochlorothozide or w/e it is

Anyone else surprised to see Aerosmith on the list?

Still waiting for a source on this ass.

Is this from his Journal?


C

CBA713 wrote:Still waiting for a source on this ass.

Is this from his Journal?


C

Yeah, there was a book released a while back with scans from a bunch of his Journals. It's in my house somewhere.

D.o.S. wrote:

masked elwood wrote:i love that he lists the pistols over the clash. i totally agree with his reasoning too.
awesome to see aerosmith rocks on there. NICE!

His reasoning about the Pistols being a band steeped in sincerity and authenticity?

as i said: YES i agree with that.
i see your "whatever" and raise you with a "who the fuk cares?"...

Huh. Pistols as an authentic band. That's a weird idea, Jerry.

masked elwood wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

masked elwood wrote:i love that he lists the pistols over the clash. i totally agree with his reasoning too.
awesome to see aerosmith rocks on there. NICE!

His reasoning about the Pistols being a band steeped in sincerity and authenticity?

as i said: YES i agree with that.
i see your "whatever" and raise you with a "who the fuk cares?"...

He says "important" not necessarily better. And who gives a fuck about Sandinista!, with London Calling and Combat Rock(my personal favorite) as bookends to it, you can't go wrong with The Clash.

I agree 100% that production on Never Mind the Bullocks is top-notch, but that's nothing to attribute to the Pistols and really very much against the future punk ethos and approach.

Basically, The Sex Pistols had the attitude and image down and very little else(despite that, Never Mind the Bullocks is still a fantastic album in every regard). The Clash were too talented and knowledgeable of musicians to stay true to punk music.

There's also the fact that the Malcolm McLauren put the pistols together. They're about as "real" and "authentic" as an American Idol backing band.

Not a single Dinosaur Jr. or Melvins album on the list? That just seems really strange, not sure if i fully believe this.

D.o.S. wrote:There's also the fact that the Malcolm McLauren put the pistols together. They're about as "real" and "authentic" as an American Idol backing band.

ok, i'll bite even thought that comment was so off base it's sorta hard to even consider it serious.

i agreed with kurt for these reasons:
i was a teen in the late 70's and (15 in '76) and punk rock was the answer to what we kids were feeling. (not unusual, every generation has it's own sound). in those days all we cared about was the idea and the music. we knew nothing about bernie directing the clash, or malcolm exploiting every possible angle. what mattered was the sound. the clash had it, the pistols had it, lots of other bands had it in different degrees. that was the important thing. the sound, the message. now of coarse, i am/was not alone and it wasn't just me that thought like that.
it was all about perception and the pistols sounded great. they also sounded like they were perceived. (and if you think it's just the big production, listen to dave goodmans demos. it wasn't luck) they were huge sounding and a bit off-putting for the time. the clash were tamer and more musical. fuk i absolutely love the clash, but this topic wasn't about that. it was about influence and favorites. none of which have anything to do with managers and revisionist history, or basic opinions on why the pistols weren't even a band.
that is why i wrote: "who the fuk cares" to you when you originally gave me your asshole-ish eyeroll reply. i agreed with his reasoning based on our perception at the time. of coarse now i know a lot more about the entire movement and the movers behind it. that doesn't change anything when it comes to what it meant at the time.
to get into a debate over punk rock and the influence it had over an individual is stupid.

and to say that the pistols sounding great on the bullocks record is going against punk rock ethos makes no sense either.
so all punk rock is supposed to sound bad?..... that's something someone's muther would say.
it was a long time ago and the music industry is vastly different and punk rock as a whole helped take it down a notch...not one band but everyone as a whole.

but yea......blah blah blah blah....... punk is dead.......whatever.....