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Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:06 am
by tuffteef
McSpunckle wrote:The outer lugs shouldn't change as you move the wiper (the thing that moves when you rotate it).
91K is within a 10% tolerance, so it might just not be super duper critical that it's 100K, but a 100K pot would totally work.
hmm so best to find a 90k pot or 100k no worries

a or b pot ?
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:29 am
by culturejam
It almost certainly is a 100K trimmer, but it's just on the outer edge of the tolerance. But its' still in spec.
Just use a 100K linear taper pot (B). If you use log taper (A), it will still work, but linear probably makes more sense in this application.
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:26 am
by tuffteef
luckily i just searched my crap draw and have some lying around
excellence
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:39 am
by eatyourguitar
I've always wanted a re-201. if it was me I wouldn't mod it cause there are a limited number of these units in existence. like a classic car. but if you figure you'll get more work done and your a working musician then I totally understand why everything needs to be setup to make music. you should make some roots reggae dub style one afternoon.
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:31 pm
by tuffteef
it wasnt oscillating at all hence me moving the bias pot
i could have just adjusted it but its a maze to get to do it
its actually a 150 but its a 201 chasis on the inside im not worried about modding this unit in some cases it would increase its value making it a giant dub noise machine now

there not too extinct yet there still freely available at a somewhat decent price
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:12 am
by tuffteef
dragging this back up
so i finally got around to drilling and replacing it
BUT
its not doing well anything? space echo works fine as always
so i either havnt replaced the right one but there isnt well any other pots left besides the tape rec pot and some other random one on another board but im not sure
or maybe my connections shot but im pretty darn sure there good to roll
will this fucking thing ever oscillate BUHHH!!!
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:11 am
by theavondon
I think you'll have to do what the guy from Earthless did to get Space Echo oscillations: buy another.
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:28 am
by tuffteef
theavondon wrote:I think you'll have to do what the guy from Earthless did to get Space Echo oscillations: buy another.

are you serious?
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:58 am
by theavondon
tuffteef wrote:theavondon wrote:I think you'll have to do what the guy from Earthless did to get Space Echo oscillations: buy another.

are you serious?
Hell yeah. He runs a Space Echo into a Space Echo to get these sounds:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-7s-T0puqw[/youtube]
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:34 am
by tuffteef
theavondon wrote:tuffteef wrote:theavondon wrote:I think you'll have to do what the guy from Earthless did to get Space Echo oscillations: buy another.

are you serious?
Hell yeah. He runs a Space Echo into a Space Echo to get these sounds:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-7s-T0puqw[/youtube]
THE POWER!

Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:57 am
by tuffteef
so ive been playing with it again trying to figure out whats going
and what i think ive done is possibly im not sure but ive replaced the wrong trimmer LOL
looking at the schems i think what ive replaced is the bias level adjustment trimmer insted of the bias
because whats happening is that hard left on the control the trail of the delays seem WAY dirtier and muffled but hard right and there super clean and crisp its hard to hear but theres a def difference
am i possibly doing damage to the heads over a long time ? the only thing i know is that the tape rec head level bias is what effects the heads and theres a bias pot for that which is fine how it is
theres only like one other trimmer and its on powerboard but why would a bias point be there for the intensity ?
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:11 pm
by eatyourguitar
sounds like your saturating your tape and thats why its getting dirty. its like diode clipping, its not gonna get any louder. you have to increase the volume on the playback head somehow. oscillation is affected by each gain stage. its a feedback loop really. if there is a volume drop from the playback head then its never gonna oscillate. maybe you need to clean the heads.
Re: Bias pots
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:38 pm
by tuffteef
eatyourguitar wrote:sounds like your saturating your tape and thats why its getting dirty. its like diode clipping, its not gonna get any louder. you have to increase the volume on the playback head somehow. oscillation is affected by each gain stage. its a feedback loop really. if there is a volume drop from the playback head then its never gonna oscillate. maybe you need to clean the heads.
im pretty much done all the setup for it like new tape, alignments, cleaning and so forth and no lurve