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Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:11 am
by Miesgjah
univalve wrote:Uh, thanks for the tip! Sounds good. Probably i will go there... How do you register for this? (Any link appreciated)

his website:
http://www.hypercustom.com/

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:07 am
by univalve
thanks!
i just thought there is something with complete program and accommodation and so on... I'm spoiled.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:49 pm
by Toonster
Great to see some more White Eagles on the forum :cool:

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:03 am
by Dexterecus
I made my White Eagle last week, here's a recording I made with it. I used alot of delay and fuzz, sweet delicious noisy swirling toanz.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/scumgoat/float[/soundcloud]

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:02 am
by Ilikewater
but what about america??? :cry:

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:27 am
by kosta
Nice demo man! Making me want to go home and play mine... Did you see the Rhys Chatham G3 performance as well? Love that piece.

I've spoken with Yuri about coming to the States, and it's tough for him to get the numbers to line up right to make it feasible with the travel costs. Add in the local sourcing or transporting of all of the necessary materials and it gets fairly complex fairly quickly. He's a great guy though, and I can't recommend his workshops enough. I had a blast at the one in Amsterdam this spring. And hell, it'd be easy enough to build a White Eagle on your own. The critical thing is to make sure that the distance from the first bridge to the second bridge is exactly half the distance of the 12th fret to the first bridge. Voila, your third ringing octave will appear.

Me and my WE there on the left:
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(Dustin Wong on the right!!!!!!!!! Lucked the F out on that one!)

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:37 am
by Ilikewater
I've been getting more and more ambitious lately. forcing myself to repair bad wiring, setup problems, and the like, so maybe a crazy build like that is the next step. looking pretty bad ass, btw.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:41 am
by kosta
Thanks man! This was a great time. If you want to try to build one, feel free to drop me a line and I can walk you through it and send pics and stuff. It took all of about 3 hours to assemble. Mostly hardware store parts.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:23 pm
by Ilikewater
will do! thanks a ton.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:22 pm
by Dexterecus
Yup, it's actually ridiculously easy to build one if you know how. It's all planks and nails, DIY as fuck.

I think the hard part of the guitar is for Yuri to invent it.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:19 pm
by phantasmagorovich
Dexterecus wrote:Yup, it's actually ridiculously easy to build one if you know how. It's all planks and nails, DIY as fuck.

I think the hard part of the guitar is for Yuri to invent it.


I love mine, it's the main guitar with one of my bands. Instant 3rd bridge sonic youth sounds - it's like sticking a screwdriver under the strings at the 5th fret only that you'd have to have a Pickup on your headstock to have the exact same effect. That is actually something Fred Frith has. Always wanted that. Maybe put it on the White Eagle so that I can have one harmonics section at a 4th and one at a 3rd string length and have all of them singing at once.

I've basically been meaning to have someone build me one a little less DIY ever since I first got it.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:57 am
by autumnautist
Could you give me the measurements nut bridge 1 and bridge 1 bridge 2 please? I would like to builld a custom white eagle (fretless semi baritone/standard scale)

Also if is possible the relative height for the two bridges (bridge - nut height)

Thanks!

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:06 am
by phantasmagorovich
autumnautist wrote:Could you give me the measurements nut bridge 1 and bridge 1 bridge 2 please? I would like to builld a custom white eagle (fretless semi baritone/standard scale)

Also if is possible the relative height for the two bridges (bridge - nut height)

Thanks!



You will have to position the bridges according to the neck length.

Nut - Bridge 1 = twice Nut - 12th Fret
Bridge 1 - Bridge 2 = Nut - 5th fret

You could also use any other harmonic length for the positioning of bridge 2 (f.e.: Nut - 7th Fret), but 5th fret (or 1/4 of the string length nut - bridge) is the shortest that will produce good results. You will want short because you still have to find strings for it and the body should be balanced. the height difference does not matter much. you will have to have some height difference because you want pressure on bridge 1 (to keep it in place and to "fret" the string) But not too much, because otherwise the vibration will not trave from one part of the string to the other. Keep in mind that the distance I posted above is that of the string running. So you might have to compensate for the height difference by moving the bridges towards each other.

I hope this makes any sense. I'd have trouble explaining it in german so i can only guess how little sense it makes in english.
:hobbes:

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:24 pm
by kosta
That sounds pretty good, P.

Re: My new guitar day! Yuri Landman's White Eagle

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:58 pm
by Toonster
I was thinking about adapting the White Eagle to a shortscale bass form, I think it's pretty doable^^

Few weeks ago I did 3 gigs with Yuri, 2 gigs I was playing Homeswinger, and one gig on these things..
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