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Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:54 am
by mathias
The industrial strength stuff that is like hooks on both sides is even more expensive. It's more uniform surface, though, than the cheap velcro's hook side. They use that stuff to hold big things in trucks. The other bonus about the industrial velcro that only has one side: it doesn't scratch stuff up.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:41 am
by snipelfritz
I lost the strip of velcro tape that came with my board, so I've just been taking smaller and smaller squares off to put on new pedals. Some of them stick really well, some of them really don't at all. I should just spring for some new tape.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:59 am
by DarkAxel
and now for something slighty different but velcro-oriented...
a while ago i was like "yeah, i'm gonna upgrade mah pedalboard". my pedalboard = a mixer console case. anyway - i bought this really great piece of carpet, glued it to the bottom of my case, waited over night and stuck my pedals to it - so i don't need to depend on those strips of shitty velcro (also it looks way better)
the first thing i noticed after a while is that i'm actually ripping the carpet from the case, because it sticks to the velcro hooks on my pedals too good

so i have to be careful while moving them
my question is - less velcro on my pedals? Stronger glue? help the glue with pins?

please help me, i want to be awesome

ps: i'm actually glad when there's already velcro on the pedal... people are strange
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:33 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
Mudfuzz wrote:People are wimps, sissies and shit, and that is why.

...or they are wimps, sissies and shit, AND collectors, yeah, or

they have some deep routed problems against any marks of usability of musical products.
I remember how years ago we used to drill holes in the board to attach the pedals in that with cable ties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_tie
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:56 am
by mathias
Probably more damaging in the long run to use cable ties, if they wear through the paint.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:59 am
by Achtane
DarkAxel wrote:and now for something slighty different but velcro-oriented...
a while ago i was like "yeah, i'm gonna upgrade mah pedalboard". my pedalboard = a mixer console case. anyway - i bought this really great piece of carpet, glued it to the bottom of my case, waited over night and stuck my pedals to it - so i don't need to depend on those strips of shitty velcro (also it looks way better)
the first thing i noticed after a while is that i'm actually ripping the carpet from the case, because it sticks to the velcro hooks on my pedals too good

so i have to be careful while moving them
my question is - less velcro on my pedals? Stronger glue? help the glue with pins?

please help me, i want to be awesome

ps: i'm actually glad when there's already velcro on the pedal... people are strange
I don't use any fancy carpet technique, but I stapled the velcro to the bottom of my board, just in case. I don't want to be worried about removing the pedals "just right" because last time they pulled up the velcro with them -- I just wanna move them when I need to.
Also, industrial strength velcro is a pain in the ass when you're rearranging multiple pedals.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:41 pm
by Heavy_Soul
DarkAxel wrote:and now for something slighty different but velcro-oriented...
a while ago i was like "yeah, i'm gonna upgrade mah pedalboard". my pedalboard = a mixer console case. anyway - i bought this really great piece of carpet, glued it to the bottom of my case, waited over night and stuck my pedals to it - so i don't need to depend on those strips of shitty velcro (also it looks way better)
the first thing i noticed after a while is that i'm actually ripping the carpet from the case, because it sticks to the velcro hooks on my pedals too good

so i have to be careful while moving them
my question is - less velcro on my pedals? Stronger glue? help the glue with pins?

please help me, i want to be awesome

ps: i'm actually glad when there's already velcro on the pedal... people are strange
I don't know how to describe what I put inside my pedalboard - it's kind of like fuzzy felt? Either way it's quite thin. But I used super mega glue all over the back of it and so far it hasn't given me any problems. It might be that the thread of the carpet is being pulled from the underlay if your velcro is too strong, nothing can really stop that

Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:17 pm
by Bassus Sanguinis
mathias wrote:Probably more damaging in the long run to use cable ties, if they wear through the paint.

so You've tried it, too? Yeah, it
can damage the painted enclosures. Not necessarily, but,
it can happen. If they're not industrially powder coated and tough, tougher than old Marshall pedals, DOD or the BOSS pedals, You'd better be mindful of where and how You put the cables.
Velcro should go off easy enough for it to be the preferred way to attach the pedals to board.

Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:50 pm
by DarkAxel
Heavy_Soul wrote:DarkAxel wrote:and now for something slighty different but velcro-oriented...
a while ago i was like "yeah, i'm gonna upgrade mah pedalboard". my pedalboard = a mixer console case. anyway - i bought this really great piece of carpet, glued it to the bottom of my case, waited over night and stuck my pedals to it - so i don't need to depend on those strips of shitty velcro (also it looks way better)
the first thing i noticed after a while is that i'm actually ripping the carpet from the case, because it sticks to the velcro hooks on my pedals too good

so i have to be careful while moving them
my question is - less velcro on my pedals? Stronger glue? help the glue with pins?

please help me, i want to be awesome

ps: i'm actually glad when there's already velcro on the pedal... people are strange
I don't know how to describe what I put inside my pedalboard - it's kind of like fuzzy felt? Either way it's quite thin. But I used super mega glue all over the back of it and so far it hasn't given me any problems. It might be that the thread of the carpet is being pulled from the underlay if your velcro is too strong, nothing can really stop that

i believe i should've used stronger glue... i'll try it soon i think
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:00 pm
by Achtane
Oh also I dunno what the inside of that case is like...if it's wood or whatever, but making sure it has a nice, even surface helps a ton. Even if you have to spraypaint it to make it a smooth surface.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:02 pm
by DarkAxel
thanks for your advice

Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:13 pm
by mathias
I used heavy duty 3M spray adhesive.
Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:52 pm
by theactionindex
Pre-velcro'd makes me a happy man, although I can see it being a deterrent in the case that somebody's looking to get some minty fresh pedals and is keeping eventual re-sale in mind.
dubkitty wrote:because i cram a ton of stuff into a small area.
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
...Sorry, I had to.

Re: What's with the Velcro?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:07 pm
by warwick.hoy
I always chalked it up to people not wanting to have to source those little rubber feet that you find on most booteek pedals.
For boss pedals,...I avoid putting velcro on the label,...just a thin strip on the top and bottom of the rubber pad on the bottom of the pedal.
Fuck resale,...but if I ever decide to list a pedal,...I always disclose velcro on the bottom along with whatever "issues" it may have. I don't know why but it's probably something like the Banana Monkey Water experiment.
http://paws.kettering.edu/~jhuggins/humor/banana.htmlThat's just the way it's always been on effects classys.