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Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:41 am
by snipelfritz
Reverb, tremelo. I also run my signal through a potato. Just shove the 1/8"s right in there. It powers itself.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:47 am
by devnulljp
Ring-mod:
weird? check
non-fuzz? check
non-modulation? check
I use treble boosters a lot though -- rangemasters / JHS types -- which are also non-fuzz, non-mod but not very weird.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:25 am
by tuffteef
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1q-LVH_0vI[/youtube]
its all about oaky timbre and crab
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:16 am
by sylnau
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:43 pm
by DarkAxel
one of the best scenes in Boosh ever

anyway... green ringer can give you some crazy textures... i used to have a copy with blend knob - cool sounds
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:07 pm
by waterpig
multiwave distortion and the zvex machine(distortion generator)
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:51 pm
by kaeth
devnulljp wrote:Ring-mod:
non-modulation? check
ring-modulation is non-modulation?
One thing that's missing from most guitar filters is resonance control. I might suggest picking up something like the Electrix Filter Factory. Tweak one of the 4 filter types, and crank the resonance on it, and you'll get some interesting textures not often heard on guitar.
I'll also second the ebow in harmonic mode. Not many devices will enhance harmonics to that degree without distorting the tone as well.
Digital delays can be quite textural at very high speeds.
Also, feedback loops are a fun option. They don't always have to be extreme. Sometimes a little subtlety can make a dull tone very interesting.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:09 am
by Doodahman1969
Filters. In post some omnisphere and alchemy patches that are sorta impossible to pull off live; unless a computer gets used.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:49 pm
by kosta
Moog MuRF!
That new Copilot stepped filter thing!
And I love using the manual setting on my old Ross Flanger with no sweeping for awesome, gritty, metallic, static comb filtering.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:47 pm
by StudioShutIn
kosta wrote:And I love using the manual setting on my old Ross Flanger with no sweeping for awesome, gritty, metallic, static comb filtering.
I've been hoping to find something that does this...but so far all I've found are the MXR flanger (not sure about the build quality) and the GNI flanger (expensive) and I'm not sure I wanna shell out money for vintage stuff either...

Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:32 pm
by snipelfritz
kaeth wrote:devnulljp wrote:Ring-mod:
non-modulation? check
ring-modulation is non-modulation?
+1 I was wondering: What defines a modulation FX pedal?
By a literal definition, aren't all effects modulating? That seems too simple though. Educate me ILF!!!
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:58 pm
by 01010111
I too require a definition of modulation. From my understanding anything that purposefully alters the signal is modulating the signal. This discussion of non-modulation confuses me.
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:11 pm
by sylnau
Sorry.......... I'm confused too!

Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:27 pm
by kaeth
Modulation is when you alter a carrier signal with a modulating signal. You need two sources. FM/Vibrato, AM/Tremolo, and Ring-Modulation are most common in guitar pedals. Be aware that a phaser does not use phase-modulation. They're two different things. Phasers and flangers can be modulated by an LFO, but are not modulation effects in and of themselves. They are filter effects. Modulating signals are usually LFOs (Low Frequency Oscillators), but you can use any waveform as a modulating signal, like another instrument or a high-frequency (audible pitch) oscillator as well.
This explains it better than I do. Check the "Passband modulation techniques" box on the side for some weirder ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulation
Re: Weird non fuzz, non modulation FX
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:21 am
by kosta
StudioShutIn wrote:kosta wrote:And I love using the manual setting on my old Ross Flanger with no sweeping for awesome, gritty, metallic, static comb filtering.
I've been hoping to find something that does this...but so far all I've found are the MXR flanger (not sure about the build quality) and the GNI flanger (expensive) and I'm not sure I wanna shell out money for vintage stuff either...

I snagged my Ross for around $125. They're out there. It has internal trimpots to really dial in the tone too. And built like a tank!