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Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:29 pm
by symbolique
The Mastery is well worth the money and the wait.

If you're after noticeably better sustain (amplified and non-amplified) you can't get better.

I'd never go back to the stock Jazz bridge

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:23 pm
by BlindtoFaith
I am thinking off getting a Mastery now. :cry: Goodby monies.

The way the intonation screws are in direct contact with the strings almost on a stock JM bridge akes no sense. I hate string buzz

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:32 pm
by tuffteef
what happened to buzzstops

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:46 pm
by Noise...
tuffteef wrote:what happened to buzzstops


Buzz in that way isn't the issue. If intonation is off, or the strings are too high (or any combination of the two) the intonation screws on the BT Jazzy's bridge come into contact with the strings - especially the higher strings - giving a weird, sitar like buzz. It's annoying, but it's fixable.

Break angle buzz is the issue with CIJ's with stock bridges. Which is why people go with Mustang bridges and buzz stops.

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:56 pm
by BlindtoFaith
Matt gave me some good advice. I am going to try and fiddle with it tomorrow night and if I cant figure it out I am ordering a Mastery with Xmas loot. hahah

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:59 pm
by tuffteef
Noise... wrote:
tuffteef wrote:what happened to buzzstops


Buzz in that way isn't the issue. If intonation is off, or the strings are too high (or any combination of the two) the intonation screws on the BT Jazzy's bridge come into contact with the strings - especially the higher strings - giving a weird, sitar like buzz. It's annoying, but it's fixable.

Break angle buzz is the issue with CIJ's with stock bridges. Which is why people go with Mustang bridges and buzz stops.



interesting

never had this issue before with most jags and jazzys ive had
or maybe it did :idk:

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:08 pm
by BlindtoFaith
tuffteef wrote:
Noise... wrote:
tuffteef wrote:what happened to buzzstops


Buzz in that way isn't the issue. If intonation is off, or the strings are too high (or any combination of the two) the intonation screws on the BT Jazzy's bridge come into contact with the strings - especially the higher strings - giving a weird, sitar like buzz. It's annoying, but it's fixable.

Break angle buzz is the issue with CIJ's with stock bridges. Which is why people go with Mustang bridges and buzz stops.



interesting

never had this issue before with most jags and jazzys ive had
or maybe it did :idk:

If they had the original style bridge I dont see how it could not have at one point. The technical concept really does not make sense. I love this guitar but I really hate the string buzz.

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:11 pm
by tuffteef
ive used mustangs, stocks, and tune o matics

they all had there issues but not sitar type bizz luckily

i liked the tune o matic but then the trem stopped working
then tried mustangs they were better for the trem
annnnnnnnnd the stocks were somewhere in between

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:59 pm
by Noise...
tuffteef wrote:
Noise... wrote:
tuffteef wrote:what happened to buzzstops


Buzz in that way isn't the issue. If intonation is off, or the strings are too high (or any combination of the two) the intonation screws on the BT Jazzy's bridge come into contact with the strings - especially the higher strings - giving a weird, sitar like buzz. It's annoying, but it's fixable.

Break angle buzz is the issue with CIJ's with stock bridges. Which is why people go with Mustang bridges and buzz stops.



interesting

never had this issue before with most jags and jazzys ive had
or maybe it did :idk:


I've never had the issues either. The BT's bridge is just a bit quirky, that's all. They could definitely have used shorter intonation screws, and slightly thicker height adjustment screws. If it's tweaked right, it's no issue, but it's annoying if it's not.

EDIT: Attached is a pic of the issue on the BT bridge - look particularly at the G, B, and high E strings at the bridge. You can see how the intonation screws are *really* damn close to touching the strings.

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:21 am
by tuffteef
ohhhhhhhhhh
i get it now
wow thats kinda weird

whats the deal fender
:no:

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:41 am
by transients
I know this is a long shot, but i've seen some people that flip the bridge around and have it upside down, and I wonder if they have any reason to do it... maybe it lessens the buzz? .... or maybe they're just dumb and put their bridge on wrong :idk:

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:47 am
by BlindtoFaith
transients wrote:I know this is a long shot, but i've seen some people that flip the bridge around and have it upside down, and I wonder if they have any reason to do it... maybe it lessens the buzz? .... or maybe they're just dumb and put their bridge on wrong :idk:

I though about this. I wonder if it works.

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:46 pm
by Noise...
BlindtoFaith wrote:
transients wrote:I know this is a long shot, but i've seen some people that flip the bridge around and have it upside down, and I wonder if they have any reason to do it... maybe it lessens the buzz? .... or maybe they're just dumb and put their bridge on wrong :idk:

I though about this. I wonder if it works.


I might just try it next time I change strings. It's worth a shot, I guess. :idk:

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:21 pm
by smile_man
Noise... wrote:I might just try it next time I change strings. It's worth a shot, I guess. :idk:


Pshh, I've found that it's possible to slacken the strings enough that you can remove the bridge without taking off yr strings.

Re: If I was to change the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzy

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:26 pm
by BlindtoFaith
just tried it.....does not work!! Hahahaha. You have the same problem just at the back end of things. Lame!!! How hard is it to set up a Mastery bridge upon first try??