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Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:34 pm
by sevenSHARPnine
Eric! wrote:sevenSHARPnine wrote:Eric! wrote:Isn't it just a rehoused Dark Boost?
Nope, it's a Fuzz Factory without the oscillation circuit.


Just kidding bud. I didn't know if your question was a joke or not, cause for a time Tom did build the Dark Boost with an added knob.
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:43 pm
by steevdeadman
I still think Tom should think about doing a
very limited run of Groundswell Oscillators

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:33 pm
by Eric!
steevdeadman wrote:I still think Tom should think about doing a
very limited run of Groundswell Oscillators

Groundswoscillator?
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:45 pm
by steevdeadman
Eric! wrote:steevdeadman wrote:I still think Tom should think about doing a
very limited run of Groundswell Oscillators

Groundswoscillator?
coooooooooooould be....

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:46 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
Groundswell's a super overdrive, really, it's as good as they come. Only better, if You ask me.

Yes, I repeat myself.

Perhaps You should ask if Tom would build You

a custom one with an added gain stage behind an extra foot switch. Stacking Groundswell gain stages works awesome, it has a brow raising amount of wonderfully open gain, of the roaring sort, without any low end cut.
Oh, and by a coincident, here's a pretty pic of one:

- groundswell custom.jpg (21.42 KiB) Viewed 2569 times
Controls are Vol, Gain, extraGain, and Volt. The right footswitch is on/off, the middle engages the extra-gain, and the one left is a momentary latch for boosting the second mode even a tad more, just to get the feedbacks and pitch harmonies right
To avoid unwanted funny compression, do not place anything with a hi-gain /hot output before the pedal. The lovely Groundswell overdrive is based on
really overdriving the gain stages and so comes a tubes-go-sizzling-overdrive so loud it'd make Lemmy smile. BUT feeding an already hot signal to Groundswell can overwhelm the circuit, making it go gulp, then vomit compression, and You are to wear a t-shirt saying FAIL.

You might want to avoid that.
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:47 am
by sevenSHARPnine
Bassus, your post has helped me immensly. For that, I award you a Smurf

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:38 pm
by Eric!
Bassus Sanguinis wrote:Groundswell's a super overdrive, really, it's as good as they come. Only better, if You ask me.

Yes, I repeat myself.

Perhaps You should ask if Tom would build You

a custom one with an added gain stage behind an extra foot switch. Stacking Groundswell gain stages works awesome, it has a brow raising amount of wonderfully open gain, of the roaring sort, without any low end cut.
Oh, and by a coincident, here's a pretty pic of one:
groundswell custom.jpg
Controls are Vol, Gain, extraGain, and Volt. The right footswitch is on/off, the middle engages the extra-gain, and the one left is a momentary latch for boosting the second mode even a tad more, just to get the feedbacks and pitch harmonies right
To avoid unwanted funny compression, do not place anything with a hi-gain /hot output before the pedal. The lovely Groundswell overdrive is based on
really overdriving the gain stages and so comes a tubes-go-sizzling-overdrive so loud it'd make Lemmy smile. BUT feeding an already hot signal to Groundswell can overwhelm the circuit, making it go gulp, then vomit compression, and You are to wear a t-shirt saying FAIL.

You might want to avoid that.
Would it be an unnecessarily large leap in logic to say that they don't cooperate with active electronics too well?
sevenSHARPnine wrote:Bassus, your post has helped me immensly. For that, I award you a Smurf

Holy smurf, you got smurf on my smurf. What the smurf, man? Think you're some kid of smurfin' smurf-garglin' smurf-aholic?
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:48 pm
by magiclawnchair
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:39 pm
by sevenSHARPnine
Eric! wrote:sevenSHARPnine wrote:Bassus, your post has helped me immensly. For that, I award you a Smurf

Holy smurf, you got smurf on my smurf. What the smurf, man? Think you're some kid of smurfin' smurf-garglin' smurf-aholic?
Dude, smurf off!
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:53 pm
by magiclawnchair
sevenSHARPnine wrote:Eric! wrote:sevenSHARPnine wrote:Bassus, your post has helped me immensly. For that, I award you a Smurf

Holy smurf, you got smurf on my smurf. What the smurf, man? Think you're some kid of smurfin' smurf-garglin' smurf-aholic?
Dude, smurf off!
what the smurf e-riddle?!? why dont you go smurf yer self!!!

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:24 am
by Eric!
magiclawnchair wrote:sevenSHARPnine wrote:Eric! wrote:Holy smurf, you got smurf on my smurf. What the smurf, man? Think you're some kid of smurfin' smurf-garglin' smurf-aholic?
Dude, smurf off!
what the smurf e-riddle?!? why dont you go smurf yer self!!!

It's just easier to curse with smurf-placements. I had no meaning or intent behind it, other than to use as many smurfs as I can..
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:27 am
by sevenSHARPnine
I'm so smurfed up right now...
Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:39 am
by Eric!
Eric! wrote:Bassus Sanguinis wrote:Groundswell's a super overdrive, really, it's as good as they come. Only better, if You ask me.

Yes, I repeat myself.

Perhaps You should ask if Tom would build You

a custom one with an added gain stage behind an extra foot switch. Stacking Groundswell gain stages works awesome, it has a brow raising amount of wonderfully open gain, of the roaring sort, without any low end cut.
Oh, and by a coincident, here's a pretty pic of one:
groundswell custom.jpg
Controls are Vol, Gain, extraGain, and Volt. The right footswitch is on/off, the middle engages the extra-gain, and the one left is a momentary latch for boosting the second mode even a tad more, just to get the feedbacks and pitch harmonies right
To avoid unwanted funny compression, do not place anything with a hi-gain /hot output before the pedal. The lovely Groundswell overdrive is based on
really overdriving the gain stages and so comes a tubes-go-sizzling-overdrive so loud it'd make Lemmy smile. BUT feeding an already hot signal to Groundswell can overwhelm the circuit, making it go gulp, then vomit compression, and You are to wear a t-shirt saying FAIL.

You might want to avoid that.
Would it be an unnecessarily large leap in logic to say that they don't cooperate with active electronics too well?
Never thought I'd quote myself..but

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:32 am
by magiclawnchair
magiclawnchair wrote:sevenSHARPnine wrote:Eric! wrote:Holy smurf, you got smurf on my smurf. What the smurf, man? Think you're some kid of smurfin' smurf-garglin' smurf-aholic?
Dude, smurf off!
what the smurf e-riddle?!? why dont you go smurf yer self!!!

Eric! wrote:
It's just easier to curse with smurf-placements. I had no meaning or intent behind it, other than to use as many smurfs as I can..
so was i and it was smurfing rad!

Re: Let's talk about the Ground Swell.
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:07 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
Eric! wrote:Would it be an unnecessarily large leap in logic to say that they don't cooperate with active electronics too well?
...sorry for time zone differences and going to Ufomammut gig, making me unavailable.

The gig was

just awesome

check the band out if You haven't already made friends.
I'd say it's pretty safe to assume the pickup impedance values can be the reason for unwanted audio fx.

So... yes, active gear might not work too well. BUT do Yourself a favor and DO check Your pickup impedance values from internetz/ retailer/ brochure/ Mom first.

If by active pickups is actually ment active preamp following passive pickups, try bypassing the preamp - a it's readily offered option in some active bass guitars - or take the onboard circuitry out and give it a pedal enclosure

.