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Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:27 am
by Chankgeez

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:33 am
by $harkToootth
01010111 wrote:I actually hope they did keep Korg’s voltage. That’s the same voltage that LZX’s video synth stuff runs, so, it’ll be easier to integrate with those systems if they did that. I doubt they’ll have any kind of sequencer on it, essentially for the same reason the Model-D (added expense for a synth that can’t be played on its own and is designed to be played via something else).
Hot off the press yesterday... they hired the guy who designed the OG MS-20.
SOURCE: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2019/ ... p-designs/

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:50 pm
by echorec
$harkToootth wrote:Hot off the press yesterday... they hired the guy who designed the OG MS-20.
SOURCE: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2019/ ... p-designs/
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Every time someone decides to take the moth balls off some engineer who hasn't done anything noteworthy in 30 years, it never amounts to much. Korg dusted off the Univibe's original designer and it birthed the unbelievably disappointing Nuvibe. I bought one for $200 and immediately returned it. I can't imagine paying $500 street and not being livid.

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:56 pm
by echorec
Here today, gone today. (50 units worldwide) If you're a company churning out 20,000 pedals a year, I don't see the point of these small batch releases.

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/li ... 20190809+A

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Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:23 pm
by MrNovember
Roland is coming out with some pretty nice looking synths: MC101, MC707, and Boutique JU06a.

Haven't checked out the videos yet, but I could see myself adding the MC101 in the future

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:48 pm
by echorec
Blooper Kickstarter is live and rapidly approaching being fully funded. :!!!:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ch ... oject_link

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhqZwIHPCH0[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhqZwIHPCH0

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:14 pm
by echorec
MrNovember wrote:Roland is coming out with some pretty nice looking synths: MC101, MC707, and Boutique JU06a.

Haven't checked out the videos yet, but I could see myself adding the MC101 in the future
As much as I want to see new stuff for the sake of variety/diversity, I just don't understand Roland's leadership at all. It's hard to swallow a $2500 digital synth with such obtuse ad copy.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... ynthesizer
massive polyphony
[...]with ample polyphony to create thick layers and complex backing parts. With this much onboard polyphony, you can create rich sound layers and backing parts without limiting your ability to play complex chords.
What the fuck does this even mean? Why can't they just come right out and say it has 32/48 voices or something.
It's equipped with Roland's next-gen I-Arpeggio, which uses artificial intelligence not only to accompany you — but to spark your creativity. I-Arpeggio takes in your notes, rhythms, and phrases, and outputs perfect drum parts, bass lines, chords, and arpeggiated figures. This intelligent arpeggiator works simultaneously on each of Jupiter-X’s five parts, and you can customize the generated patterns and export them to your DAW via USB. Note that these are not backing tracks: they are intelligently generated beats and phrases that flesh out your live performance and obliterate writer’s block — a welcome feature if you're looking to define your own unique voice as an artist!
Find your own unique voice through automation....

I'm all for chance composition / generative music, but that block of text makes me want to scream. I've just read that whole mess and have no idea if staples like Up/Down/Up+down/Random settings are available.

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Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:24 pm
by $harkToootth
Roland is trying the if you’re reading this, then you know what this is approach.

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:40 pm
by echorec
As much as Roland's marketing/lack of innovation annoys me, the Jupiter-X has some appeal as a hardware Roland (versus plugins or the boutique modules).

The Jupiter-Xm, though, what a fucking joke.... :picard:

37-slim keys?!?!? $1,500 for 3-octaves and bonus menu-diving. Yuck.

https://www.roland.com/global/products/jupiter-xm/

more of this nonsense...
loads of polyphony
enough polyphony
(according to a Roland rep in the SonicState demo, it can reach up to 256 voices, depending which sound engines you're using...but you won't find that on product listings or Roland's home site)

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If Roland cared as much about new sounds, as they do about Bluetooth and picnic concerts, they'd be unstoppable.

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Here's another item worth noting---even if you drop an extra grand, you don't get any bonus memory.

4,000 Preset Tones, 256 User Tones, 90 Drum Kits, 256 Scenes ----- :lol: 4,000 presets, but only 256 for the user?!? For fuck's sake, Roland.
JUPITER-X is part of an expandable platform, so it can be updated with fresh new content as it becomes available.
I'm pretty sure that is code for: pay $20 monthly for a subscription service, where we let you lease sounds to the >$1,500 synth you already paid for.

Also, you have to appreciate the absurdity of a company, that refuses to move award is promising you "fresh new content."

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:50 pm
by echorec
$harkToootth wrote:Roland is trying the if you’re reading this, then you know what this is approach.
That's certainly the underlying attitude, but they execute it in the most absurd way possible. They are the masters of the bedazzled retread. You're getting 35-yr old sounds, but dressed up in meaningless techie drizzle.

ZEN-Core, cutting-edge, artificial intelligence...
beastly new ZEN-Core synth engine
Jupiter-X is equipped with Roland's latest cutting-edge sound engine
It's equipped with Roland's next-gen I-Arpeggio, which uses artificial intelligence not only to accompany you — but to spark your creativity.

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:26 pm
by coupleonapkins
$harkToootth wrote:Autumnal Equinox NAMM is trying the if you’re reading this, then you know what this is approach.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3bC4SaZ0m4[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3bC4SaZ0m4

No Kyles were stepped upon during before or after the making of this video :cry:

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:09 pm
by $harkToootth
echorec wrote: 37-slim keys?!?!? $1,500 for 3-octaves and bonus menu-diving. Yuck.
more of this nonsense...
loads of polyphony
enough polyphony
I'm really not trying to smack talk synths I 1. Can't afford 2. Have no intention of getting anyway but... with that UI... I'll keep my sweet D-2 thank you very much :lol:
echorec wrote:I'm pretty sure that is code for: pay $20 monthly for a subscription service, where we let you lease sounds to the >$1,500 synth you already paid for.
Also, you have to appreciate the absurdity of a company, that refuses to move award is promising you "fresh new content."
Yes, I was saying that in another thread. There is absolutely nothing appealing about being a part of a "Roland Cloud" or any subscription based offering they have.
Nah it's fine. If you want to sign in again please do a factory reset of your laptop, reinstall the browser and run 4 extensions. No big deal.
coupleonapkins wrote:No Kyles were stepped upon during before or after the making of this video :cry:
These products were made for Kyle. Kyle probably works at Roland in Customer Support. He really needs to step the fuck up!

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:14 pm
by $harkToootth
Kind of related... I came across another video on Woody's Piano Shack where he mentioned (not to the degree we all are :lol: ) Roland being unnecessarily ambiguous about technical specs. This was more technical like, "What chips did the JV-5080 use VS the 2080?" + (Something on a newer rack unit.. I honestly don't remember the exact specs.) Essentially, you have to resort towards a somewhat resourceful youtuber or blogger to find this stuff out (and what I mean by that is someone kind enough to open the machine and post about it).

Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:53 am
by echorec
Here's a prototype of a new Modal wave synth.

$699 – £579 – €649

pros: sound, price, huge modulation matrix, deep arpeggiator & sequencer
cons: 3-octaves and external editing required to maximize its potential

The 3-octave keybed makes this look like an expensive toy for children living in 2080.  While the slim, steel enclosure conjures up memories of Soviet synths from the 80s. I wonder if they'll do a larger version, allowing for greater playability. My guess is "no", since they've shaken up the staff and shifted their strategy. It may take 2-3 more launches, before they reveal another 4/5-octave KB.

https://www.modalelectronics.com/argon8/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3p6dMzyA9U[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3p6dMzyA9U

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Re: 2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:26 am
by MrNovember
echorec wrote:The 3-octave keybed makes this look like an expensive toy for children living in 2080
I think this every time I see a small keybed. I don't understand why so many manufacturers insist on including small keys on synths. 9 times out of 10 I'd prefer a synth without a keyboard over a synth with cheap small keys. I've already got enough controllers I can use and assume that most other musicians that use synths do as well.