The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[Kacey Y]

I dunno man, the dude in Witch mountain rocks the hell out of a fuzzed out high gained strat and does it masterfully. I feel like strats get a bad rap but it's another tool. One that can be beautiful when used by someone who understands it. I prefer humbuckers nowadays but played a strat for years. good tones in there.

Also, summit broadcast just ended. very cool man. way to bring up starfish dicks

Strats can definitely do heavy. It got brought up in the TB Stoner/Doom thread at some point and I made a demo specific to show off the different Strat pickup positions with a heavy tone. Only tuned in Eb with a Joyo OD too, so it can definitely get a lot heavier, especially loud live or in a good mix.


I don't have that MIM Strat anymore, sold it to a friend, but I'm planning on replacing it with a Carvin Bolt eventually.

Wish I had caught Summit's broadcast, bummer. Every minute of my weekend was taken up, between family christmas parties and DIY home improvements.

[samzadgan]

I mean, Blood Mountain is good, it's just not really on the same level as Remission and Leviathan.

You gotta remember, when Mastodon was "breaking," they were a gloriously sludgy alternative to whatever you want to call the bands from NE and Orange County who were doing the whole scene-core-NWOAHM-clean vocals on the chorus-thing. That was more or less the face of metal ten-ish years ago, and that shit sucked. I saw them on the Slayer tour right after Leviathan dropped, and it was just fucking mindblowing how crushing they were compared to a band like Killswitch, who were being pegged as "the next big thing from the metal underground" or however you want to Decibil-ize it.

So then the 'don gets signed to Warner Bros... and just get redundant or boring. There some prog bands that I like, but I don't listen to Mastodon for that. I listen to Mastodon for the Allman Brothers meets Slayer using EyehateGod's gear.

Which they haven't done in like ten years at this point. Dead to Me.

it all depends on when you got into them and what you wanted out of them...i have a very different view on them to most of the people here...my favourite album of theirs is CtS, and i cant really get on with their earlier work or Hunter for that matter. There are some songs i like, but they don't get the same rotation as CtS album. If i look for a reason for it, its because i had been listening to bands like Opeth for a long time, and when i discovered mastadon, that prog style they use in CtS was a perfect transition to their music. Maybe if i had been into them earlier i would have had a different view.

[ryan summit]

dont worry
the archives are the shit
i know a quicktime into your ipod trick too
and your right pope
i was lookin at the worst pic possible
i can see it

[samzadgan]

IT'LL BE NOISY THIS CHRISTMAS
WITH NEW AMPS TO BLOW

IT'LL BE NOISY THIS CHRISTMAS
THE TONE IS SO LOOOOOW

nice man...nothing like loud doom to bring in the xmas spirit!

[chillerthanmost]

I'm a huge fan of playing heavy with single coils. I mainly use P90's but I'd rock a jazzy, a tele, and for a short while I was rocking a strat. I never play humbuckers anymore. Most of them sound dull and somewhat scooped to me at times. I did like the 57's in my Gibson when I had that, though. But I'm just a sucker for P90's now. Next I want a jazzmaster with telecaster routing/pickups.

[CaptainBoxman]

Baja tele works surprisingly well for heavy shit. You got your single coil sounds and top notch pickups, but P4 uses both pickups in series, so you get this really nice fat grungy early sabbath sound

[Ancient Astronaught]

I'm a huge fan of playing heavy with single coils. I mainly use P90's but I'd rock a jazzy, a tele, and for a short while I was rocking a strat. I never play humbuckers anymore. Most of them sound dull and somewhat scooped to me at times. I did like the 57's in my Gibson when I had that, though. But I'm just a sucker for P90's now. Next I want a jazzmaster with telecaster routing/pickups.

P-90's are the best style of pickup for chord clarity under high gain, love em. I've recently started using rail pickups though and I'm really impressed by them, they seem to be more full range than normal pickups with amazing crunch and clarity. Rail HB in the bridge with a p-90 in the neck would make me one happy camper.

[chillerthanmost]

The thing I don't like about humbuckers is they add more low end, and compensate the dull brightness by adding some top end sparkle, which in turn leaves out the mids hence why I said I hear most of them as scoop sounding. I gotta check out rails though. Our guitarists has a dual humbucker guitar and the stock bridge was lame so I put an old DiMarzio Super D I had laying around but it's still pretty dull compared to both my P90 guitars. He is convinced on humbuckers and a long time user though, so I'm trying to look for something that will accommodate his likes while still sounding like something I like, haha!


To be fair, I've only played a handful of humbuckers before deciding to stick to P90's. Sooooo, don't judge me =P

[D.o.S.]

I really like the way Dano Lipsticks play with "doom-worthy" fuzztones.

[humancertainty]

Still looks baked!

Above and beyond talking with you guys, I'm glad I'm still up. Watching this thing on Smithsonian channels about the "Folkways" collection. Indy folk label collection that was huge and is now owned by the Smithsonian. 2200 albums plus tons of undocumented material. Recordings of Rain on a roof, weird shit. Why should we care?
It sounds like it set a precedent and they are adding to the collection when they can by acquiring material from labels that are failing or disappearing. it's become about preserving music that would otherwise be lost.
I dunno, I think that's pretty cool.

We should care because the Folkways and Smithsonian stuff is stunning. So much good stuff. You're going down a serious rabbit hole if you start chasing that muse.

That first picture's not from a movie, it's from Deadwood. Which is without a doubt the best "premium cable" TV show ever.

Fixed than one for you, hoss.

That's a bit extreme. I don't think there are any bands I loved that are now 'dead to me'. The Hunter may have sucked, but everyone makes dodgy albums. Shit happens. I can understand disliking the newer stuff, but Blood Mountain is only a little bit more polished than Leviathan, slightly less raw, and maybe a little more progressive. You can't expect every album to sound the same. Blood Mountain was an incredibly intelligent record, and those that say it's not heavy or crazy enough... Bladecatcher? I think Leviathan is just as good, but I personally prefer Blood Mountain because it was the first album of theirs that I truly digested. That was one of the most played records in my collection. Crack the Skye was just as good as well, but I thought they struggled to perform the songs live. The vocal harmonies and all the complexities just couldn't be replicated properly. They bit off a little more than they could chew, but it was phenomenal on CD, IMO. I get why some don't like CtS and The Hunter, and I understand why others don't like Remission, but I don't understand the hate for Blood Mountain.

Black Flag is dead to me. There are probably other bands, but that's the only one that jumps to my mind in my pre-caffeinated state. Wait, Metallica, too.
Never been a Mastodon fan. Nice enough guys. The demo was OK, I suppose.


Unrelated to all of that, I got an iPad.
For all of you that are already well initiated in the Cult of Mac, what apps should I get? Particularly music/recording stuff. I have picked up Garageband, Animoog, iMS-20, Modular and DM-1 so far. Mostly want to get a better recording app. And a sampling app.

[D.o.S.]

That first picture's not from a movie, it's from Deadwood. Which is without a doubt the best "premium cable" TV show ever.

Fixed than one for you, hoss.

High-Five.


Can't help you out on the iPad front--I'm not really a Mac person, plus you already snagged my two suggestions--garageband and animoog.

[Baxandall]

Crazy talk. One amp is NOT ENOUGH!!

Still have 5 guitar amps but only one of them is a monster.

[AxAxSxS]

We should care because the Folkways and Smithsonian stuff is stunning. So much good stuff. You're going down a serious rabbit hole if you start chasing that muse.

I certainly hope so! In case anyone wants to follow me in- http://www.folkways.si.edu/

As for pickups, You guys should give the alumitone deathbuckers a shot. I've been thrilled with them.

[Baxandall]

What's up fellers? Just sold my Electric Amp. I now only have one high powered guitar amp left.

What model and why didn't you sell it to me!?

My MV120. Theecricket

[chillerthanmost]

What's up fellers? Just sold my Electric Amp. I now only have one high powered guitar amp left.

What model and why didn't you sell it to me!?

My MV120. Theecricket

Ah, okay. I feel better knowing it wasn't a NMV

I can kindaaaaa get my Sorado in that Matamp tone territory with the tubes being pushed and a Fuck OD in front of it. Still kinda missing it though. Obv, it's a different circuit. And it's underpowered in comparison. I have to play it through an open back cab with loud ass speakers to keep up in volume. Maybe I'll just give Nick's OD120 pedal a try when I can get my hands on one