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I like drinking and I like drinking nice things but spending huge amounts on rare/expensive alcohol except maybe for very very special occasions is baffling to me. I guess I don't understand the collector mindset when applied to consumables

coldbrightsunlight wrote:I guess I don't understand the collector mindset when applied to consumables

I don't "do it" but I "get it". I just get collecting in general.
I'm talking smack but, the people that collect the "Game of Thrones" beers. Again, I get the collecting aspect but, they are/were consistently the worst segment to deal with. It came to a point at my store we just didn't order them anymore. Didn't want to deal with it. The people that collected Stone "Enjoy Boys" were second place, but not even a close second. There is a joke here about the first set of collectors taking the metaphorical "throne" but I'm not clever or caffeinated enough to come up with it write now.

Speaking of collectors, if you want to have some fun, read about Paul Reubens (Pee Wee Herman's) collecting.

cosmicevan wrote:The only awkward stuff about the fall bourbon hunt is the faux relationships and conversations that the hunters have w store mgrs. I used to be pretty deep in it and hung w a crew that had some deep pockets so I have been fortunate w what Ive tried and even still have a pretty impressive bar w my open bottles. I am just thankful that there is still market to cash out on...the craft beer bubble burst and my buddy who went through recovery is sitting on a massive cellar of bottles that used to sell for north of a hundred ea and now you cant give em away. Gear and noise and music is way more fun

Yikes! Our craft beer bubble is still in full effect - however I must confess I’ve never heard of craft beer bottle flippers - that’s a new one for me - but you still get guys sitting at the bar describing “the nose” and “the finish” etc.

My old band even “wrote” an album about it. https://postnataldrip.bandcamp.com/albu ... er-asshole

This was after meeting at a local brewer and watching guys call the bartender over just to describe their fucking palate “now I’m tasting notes of seaweed and artichoke” [bartender] cool man

retinal orbita wrote:“the nose” and “the finish” etc.

...watching guys call the bartender over just to describe their fucking palate “now I’m tasting notes of seaweed and artichoke”

You know what would be a good craft beer idea? Pickle beer. With a pickle at the bottom of your glass.

I also had a drink recently - it’s called a pickleback. You get a shot of whiskey and follow it with a shot of pickle brine from the pickle jar at the bar. You have two of those and in the morning you’ll feel like you spent the night sleeping inside the devils asshole. You probably also ate chicken wings and that don’t help either.

No joke, my brother and I used to drink pickle juice just for a goof. You would think, "Ah gee what a lad! Absolute madman!" and it would be one and done... nope. We drank a lot of pickle juice as a bit that didn't really have a punch line.

Tennis players use it for leg cramps

I could go for some pickled eggs now tbh.

Also, this is the most important thing in this ridiculous thread.

$harkToootth wrote:No joke, my brother and I used to drink pickle juice just for a goof. You would think, "Ah gee what a lad! Absolute madman!" and it would be one and done... nope. We drank a lot of pickle juice as a bit that didn't really have a punch line.

Tennis players use it for leg cramps

I used to make my own pickles with my mother every year - hoping to get back into it next year because my stash is depleted - and the singer of my old band when I was younger was a pickle fiend. He’d even drink the brine from the pickle jar I gave him every year.

I like this new direction. We gotta keep it positive! Positive Pickles! Changing the name again.

coldbrightsunlight wrote:I guess I don't understand the collector mindset when applied to consumables

my aunt bought my folks some nice port for xmas one year. between them, my brother and me, we got through it in an evening. my aunt was like "how is it all gone already" and it's like... what the hell else is it even for, y'know?

We put pickle brine in ceasars sometimes for an extra kick

retinal orbita wrote:however I must confess I’ve never heard of craft beer bottle flippers - that’s a new one for me - but you still get guys sitting at the bar describing “the nose” and “the finish” etc.

Oh yeah...anywhere there is a rabid fanbase and people who have disposable incomes there will be someone looking to make a buck. I got into about 10 years ago...before things got out of hand. It was the bourbon county vanilla (1st issuing of that beer) that things got stupid. That's when the concept of truck chasing was first introduced (following the delivery truck from store to store to snag em all). In the craftbeer community, we lovingly called those folks Sh.tlords. It wasn't before long that per person limits were put on special releases and then the line ups started for releases with the introduction of Other Half deep in brooklyn. That begat starting to see line cutters and people paying "those line guys" to wait for them. Much like the bourbon scene, it quickly became more about who you knew to get the hookup.

Then there was a REAL grey market where things got sold for crazy amounts. I was big into craft beer glassware and that eventually got out of hand too with limited $10 glasses with screen print on them selling for north of $100 the day after releases. As with all things, the bottom feeders figured out ways to get even more scummy and an underground culture of "razzles" started. They called them razzels because they were done in facebook groups and the word raffle would get flagged. Basically, someone would take a rare bottle and offer it up for $10 spots based on something like the megaball on the lottery. 10 slots @ $10 gets the guy $100 and the winner wins a $100 bottle for as low as $10...the losers, well it was just gambling.

It still exists, but it has died down tremendously. Really rare stuff still sells, but beyond that it's the flavor of the week and last week's flavor no one cares about. I think it died down because of the total saturation of the market and the turn over in the fanbase. You can only drink heavily for so long before your health really takes a nose dive...or alcoholism just destroys your life. There is also a newer movement against the grey market that the neckbeards call "only trades bro" so it has become a bit uncool to flip for profit...but it still goes down.

It's really no different than any hobby...whether it be fancy watches, sneakers, or any number of sports where you can spend endless money on gear - biking, golf, etc. Just like music, guitars, synths, pedals. There's always some bottom feeder looking to make a buck. If you can't tell, I'm pretty anti flipper...but I get it, your stuff to do as you want and none of my business. I still think it's shitty to take advantage of a community that you are an active member of, but apparently I'm in the minority with those opinions.

check out mybeercellar.com - that's one of the still active sites where people sell bottles.

Cosmicevan can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe, in the States at least, the 2nd hand liquor market died down because of 2 issues. 1. Liquor Licenses and 2. Tax. The ABC pretty much went after any app.

Who's making pickled eggs?
Who's playing the maracas?