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Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:52 pm**

lordgalvar wrote:The term "pleb" is played out.

I acknowledge this and am sorry for my use of it just now.
I realized it a week ago on the I Heart Powerviolence Facebook page.
Someone said "Dre Beats are for plebs." I asked them if saying things are for plebs is for plebs.
I did not remove the beam from my own eye before complaining about the mote in my neighbour's.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:34 pm**

haha, just seeing it too much on here.

Be more of a flower and bloom some new descriptors. Let use "hoi polloi" this week. Next week we will use "followers of consumer culture" and continue the discussion onward by using "mass-media informed individuals" in reference to non-ILFers/underground media connoisseurs...I know they ain't all direct synonyms, but it may help direct conversation toward new and exciting paths where we can explore different cultural views on how music relates to perception. Let's make it springtime for analysis!

Or just keep using "pleb".

My old drummer's band was called "Plebeian Cry". haha

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:57 pm**

The ultimate description of plebs and their kin, from where I'm standing, anyway...

Admit it. Despite your pseudo-bohemian appearance and vaguely leftist doctrine of beliefs, you know nothing about art or sex that you couldn’t read in any trendy, New York, underground fashion magazine. Prototypical non-conformist. You are a vacuous soldier of the thriftstore Gestapo. You adhere to a set of standards and tastes that appear to be determined by an unseen panel of hipster judges, giving a thumbs up or thumbs down to incoming and outgoing trends and styles of music and art. "Go analog, baby! You’re so postmodern!" You’re diving face forward into an antiquated past. It’s disgusting, it's offensive, don’t stick your nose up at me... what do you have to say for yourself?

You spend your time sitting in circles with your friends, pontificating to each other, forever competing for that one moment of self-aggrandizing glory in which you hog the intellectual spotlight, holding dominion over the entire shallow pointless conversation. "Oh, we’re not worthy." When you walk by a group of quote-unquote normal people, you chuckle to yourself, patting yourself on the back as you scoff. It's the same superiority complex shared by the high school jocks who made your life a living hell, and makes you a slave to the competitive capitalist dogma you spend every moment of your waking life bitching about... what do you have to say for yourself?

It's scary because it's like looking in a mirror.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:08 pm**

Man, you are reading into it way too much...it just means commoner (mostly in reference to Rome). That's it.

if you want to use that definition, please link every reference to "pleb" to the post where you define your implied definition.

Useage: pleb (editor: link)

haha, just giving you a hard time, bud. It's all good.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:42 pm**

I think its abundantly clear from the shoe thread that none of you read underground new york fashion magazines....

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:53 pm**

Shit
*cancels SZ subscription*

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:50 pm**

Obviously I know what a pleb is HISTORICALLY, galvar, that was it meant to me NOW.

You fuckin pleb lol

Maybe it's more a description of would-be patricians...

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:58 pm**

I used to live with a guy who was a middle class, closet young-liberal party member, would Hoover drugs and alcohol and had to be right about everything even when he was completely out of his depth. He thought he was so bohemian, slumming it in the old illegal brothel we used to live in, with us working class drunks, but he always had mum and dad on hand to bail him out of financial crises.
CCandy that post reminded me of him.

Apparently he made some iPhone app/Facebook game and made a fortune when all that took off.
Good for him.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:53 pm**

Blackened Soul wrote:
casecandy wrote:While it is pretty pleb to not like The Beach Boys
How does this work considering that they are a cornerstone of being a pleb? They were/are a pop group that has been force fed down everyone's throat for 50 years.
Also why are you even responding AT people?

Friiieeeeeeeeennnnnddd

I'd be fine letting the beach boys be if people acknowledged that Pet Sounds is of no more value than any of their silly surfy stuff.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:56 pm**

futuresailors wrote:Shit
*cancels SZ subscription*

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:00 pm**

snipelfritz wrote:
Blackened Soul wrote:
casecandy wrote:While it is pretty pleb to not like The Beach Boys
How does this work considering that they are a cornerstone of being a pleb? They were/are a pop group that has been force fed down everyone's throat for 50 years.
Also why are you even responding AT people?
Friiieeeeeeeeennnnnddd

I'd be fine letting the beach boys be if people acknowledged that Pet Sounds is of no more value than any of their silly surfy stuff.

No you can't say that because all the pseudo intellectuals, pseudo cool people, pseudo music fans will get mad at you for thinking for your self and call you a pseudo pleb.
#boringpeopleonline

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:47 pm**

PLEB IS SUCH A PLEB THING TO SAY

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:54 pm**

kbit wrote:PLEB IS SUCH A PLEB THING TO SAY

I'VE NEVER EVEN NOTICED THE TERM BEFORE
IT SOUNDS DUMB AND IS A GOOD WAY TO POINT OUT HOW
DUMB IT IS WHEN YOU GUYS USE IT!!!!

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:03 am**

snipelfritz wrote:
Blackened Soul wrote:
casecandy wrote:While it is pretty pleb to not like The Beach Boys
How does this work considering that they are a cornerstone of being a pleb? They were/are a pop group that has been force fed down everyone's throat for 50 years.
Also why are you even responding AT people?
Friiieeeeeeeeennnnnddd

I'd be fine letting the beach boys be if people acknowledged that Pet Sounds is of no more value than any of their silly surfy stuff.

okay, yeah I get what you mean

Beach Boys > The Beatles

better?

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:51 pm**

Iommic Pope wrote:I used to live with a guy who was a middle class, closet young-liberal party member, would Hoover drugs and alcohol and had to be right about everything even when he was completely out of his depth. He thought he was so bohemian, slumming it in the old illegal brothel we used to live in, with us working class drunks, but he always had mum and dad on hand to bail him out of financial crises.
CCandy that post reminded me of him.

Apparently he made some iPhone app/Facebook game and made a fortune when all that took off.
Good for him.

FYI that post was just the lyrics to the first two verses of Say Anything's song "Admit It!!!" I've been listening to it for a decade, now, and it never lost its acerbic edge. I think it cuts to the heart of a lot of people that I know... including, in parts, myself. (For example, I do love hogging the intellectual spotlight, holding dominion over the entire, shallow, pointless conversation. So do some, erm, other ILFers

) -- in the third verse he goes after himself too

Ain't that just the way, iPhone app trustfund douches...

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