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Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:01 pm
by xchristophex
It would be interesting to see what some of your setups look like; here was mine for my show last night (and additional one of the aftermath...Started the set with six strings and ended it with zero):

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Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:24 pm
by popvulture
D.o.S. wrote:Yeah if it works for you I'm sure it'll be great. I want to say Deltz had a Maschine for a bit but idk if that was actually him (I've already confused UC and Eiwind today so I'm off to a bad start when it comes to telling ILFers apart today).

Also new collabo album coming down the pipe that has Ableton Drones all over it (and guitar, too). Hype.
I have a Maschine (mk1) and it's just okay. Honestly I think I'm not the best judge/user though, as I really just use it for sketching beats for more trad songwriting. For me, probably overkill.

I also have their Akoustik and Elektrik Piano libraries, which have now just been absorbed into Kotakt. I've always really really loved those libraries, but at the end of the day they're just sample libraries, of which there are obviously tons of good ones out there.

Reaktor though has always been the big, strong offering they have, or at least to me. It can go dauntingly deep. That said, it's also very welcoming on a beginner level via all of the factory and user created presets. Makes it a bit less scary to jump into than something like Max.

Plus, this is the first major version update in approaching 10 years, so... I'm psyched.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:44 pm
by D.o.S.
xchristophex wrote:It would be interesting to see what some of your setups look like; here was mine for my show last night (and additional one of the aftermath...Started the set with six strings and ended it with zero):

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:drool:

That's pretty rad -- usually I just create setups to make the base layers and then tweak them in Ableton. Wish I had a camera.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:30 pm
by hollowhero
sonidero wrote:Apesoft had some mad apps out... iDensity and iPulseret
These were great recs. I've had the moog apps on my ipad forever but never realized there were glitchy/granular apps out there. I'm still figuring it all out, but I've had a ton of fun just loading songs into iDensity and blowing them up

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:21 pm
by aen
Um... how to learn Reaktor?
I've had it for easily a year and a half and I can't do shit.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:50 pm
by popvulture
I ran into the same problem for a while there, as the manual's like reading the Handbook for the Recently Deceased.

BUT. Some good intro tutorials on YT that helped me quite a bit. Would post but I'm at limited capacity, waiting at the DMV. Easy to find though.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:53 pm
by popvulture
Also, xchristophex-- what's that iPad app you're running? Lemur?

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:55 am
by xchristophex
popvulture wrote:Also, xchristophex-- what's that iPad app you're running? Lemur?
Hey popvulture, yeah it's a lemur template that I made specifically for that performance (controlling audio input processing patches, an audio-reactive visual patch, and EQ/Levels so that I could control the mix from the stage). See the link below for a clip from the performance:

https://vimeo.com/138979153

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:50 am
by louderthangod
Anyone have anything like this? A midi controller that also controls your DAW and plugins and is already set up to run soft synths like Alchemy so you don't have to program the knobs.
http://youtu.be/Y3DR86aFZgU

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:39 pm
by spacelordmother
louderthangod wrote:Anyone have anything like this? A midi controller that also controls your DAW and plugins and is already set up to run soft synths like Alchemy so you don't have to program the knobs.
http://youtu.be/Y3DR86aFZgU
No, but I've had my eye on the Novation Remote Zero for a long and it does the same sort of thing. I've read lots of mixed experiences with those auto map ccontrollers though so I've been stuck on the fence.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:53 pm
by louderthangod
Nektar makes one similar to that called the P1. The demos of these with Logic seem to work pretty well. I figure I'd just use it for tracking and then switch back to the mouse and qwerty when I'm mixing.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:12 am
by Ev_O)))
Great thread. Here to spam relevant material:

https://kinglynch.bandcamp.com/album/animals

Granular synthesis and fuckity samples mostly, all smashed together in Ableton. I even made use of the Max for Live instrument made by our very own Dr. Sherman Sticks MD and linked a few pages back (which is a hell of a lot of fun).

Anyone else getting down with Computer based drone/granular stuff at the moment?

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:02 am
by Glace_Noire
Ev_O))) wrote:Great thread. Here to spam relevant material:

https://kinglynch.bandcamp.com/album/animals

Granular synthesis and fuckity samples mostly, all smashed together in Ableton. I even made use of the Max for Live instrument made by our very own Dr. Sherman Sticks MD and linked a few pages back (which is a hell of a lot of fun).

Anyone else getting down with Computer based drone/granular stuff at the moment?
Great job buddy! I love it! :joy:

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:35 am
by oscillateur
Ev_O))) wrote:Great thread. Here to spam relevant material:

https://kinglynch.bandcamp.com/album/animals

Granular synthesis and fuckity samples mostly, all smashed together in Ableton. I even made use of the Max for Live instrument made by our very own Dr. Sherman Sticks MD and linked a few pages back (which is a hell of a lot of fun).

Anyone else getting down with Computer based drone/granular stuff at the moment?
That's quite nice...
Is it something you could play live somehow (I mean, really interacting with the music) ?

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:40 am
by Ev_O)))
oscillateur wrote:
Ev_O))) wrote:Great thread. Here to spam relevant material:

https://kinglynch.bandcamp.com/album/animals

Granular synthesis and fuckity samples mostly, all smashed together in Ableton. I even made use of the Max for Live instrument made by our very own Dr. Sherman Sticks MD and linked a few pages back (which is a hell of a lot of fun).

Anyone else getting down with Computer based drone/granular stuff at the moment?
That's quite nice...
Is it something you could play live somehow (I mean, really interacting with the music) ?

Thanks guys.

I have been working on finding a way to do it effectively and in a truly live manner and so far I have taken the route of breaking it down into a million clips in ableton and fucking around with crossfades and things like that to try and keep it somewhat improvisatory in nature. But yeah. It's something that feel weird coming form an instrumental performace background and I'm looking at working some live loops into it.
Gonna have to figure it out.