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Re: HEXE

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:21 pm
by Jwar
Also, he is shutting the Bitcrusher 3 down permanently. At least that's what I've been told.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:39 pm
by Glitches&switches
Jwar wrote:He's talked to me about updating it, yes. Not set in stone.
Heard any more about this possibility of an updated Melusine?

Last time I spoke to him he was 6 months out from releasing a limited run of a new Revolver Dx with over 2 minutes sampling time, I am on the list for that though I honestly wonder how much fidelity will potentially be lost at that sampling time but considering the stuff he has done already I can only imagine it will be yet another interesting and very useful tool! Did he give you any idea as to what might be updated on the Melusine? I definitely am intrigued by that peel but not quite enough to pull the trigger for what they sell for on the used market.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:50 pm
by foxyg
I have a Revolver DX16 , actually the serial #1, his own, and it kills !

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:35 am
by gila_crisis
I wrote Piotr once (months ago) to ask if it was possible to convert the Revolver DX I have, to a DX16, with exapnded 16second buffer, but... I'm still waiting for a reply...

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:13 am
by Jwar
Glitches&switches wrote:
Jwar wrote:He's talked to me about updating it, yes. Not set in stone.
Heard any more about this possibility of an updated Melusine?

Last time I spoke to him he was 6 months out from releasing a limited run of a new Revolver Dx with over 2 minutes sampling time, I am on the list for that though I honestly wonder how much fidelity will potentially be lost at that sampling time but considering the stuff he has done already I can only imagine it will be yet another interesting and very useful tool! Did he give you any idea as to what might be updated on the Melusine? I definitely am intrigued by that peel but not quite enough to pull the trigger for what they sell for on the used market.
I have not heard anything more but I haven't really asked. The last I was told was I'm on the list for limited DX run that has the 2 minutes of sample time like you're talking about. It was upgraded. I don't think the fidelity will be a big issue with his boxes. They seem to generate much cleaner samples than almost anything else I've heard. So, I'm not worried about that so much. I do agree it's a possible issue though and perhaps the reason I have not been invoiced for one yet. :) Oh well! I'm happy to wait! Need to raise money anyway! haha

The Melusine updates we discussed were moving the vinyl hard stop to a dedicated switch. So adding a second stomp with the stop feature to make it more usable. IMO it was extremely hard to use as the multi function stomp made it just a tad too difficult to do on the fly. He also talked about adding expression to sweep the white noise or static. Both of those were my suggestions but he actually had already thought about them. He dug my ideas though and said he'd be updating the circuit this year. No word on what and how yet but I'm excited! The Melusine is one of the most useful Hexe boxes I've had. It's just got perfect filtering for bass when set up right and can add some really cool nuances to your tone.

Maybe I'll shoot Piotr another email and see how things are going? He seems pretty open to talking with me. He's a good dude.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:45 pm
by Dandolin
Wow--Revolver DX with over 2 minutes of buffer? :snax: Would definitely be interested in hearing. Though if it's limited like the DX16, my seeing one in real life will be like that time I found a purple hedgehog chilling in a tire swing....

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:08 pm
by Glitches&switches
Dandolin wrote:Wow--Revolver DX with over 2 minutes of buffer? :snax: Would definitely be interested in hearing. Though if it's limited like the DX16, my seeing one in real life will be like that time I found a purple hedgehog chilling in a tire swing....
It is another limited run and it is going to be even pricier by $100 plus shipping as he is no longer offering free shipping. I don't know how many he is making I do know he wasn't requiring a pre-payment but he was 6 months out from having them done a month ago, he may still be putting people on the list for them?

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:21 pm
by whoismarykelly
I have a DX16 and I'm honestly a little meh on all that sampling time because something with that much time tends to be something I'll record a long loop on and let it keep going for a while. But after a certain number of repeats the DX16 loops have completely degraded and you have to restart the loop which comes back in at full volume and clarity. Not necessarily what Im going for in the moment. I dont know that its an issue with the middle of the fade knob not really being 'no fade' or if its an issue with degradation after 100 times through the loop or whatever but I end up using it about the same as my regular DX.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:43 pm
by Glitches&switches
whoismarykelly wrote:I have a DX16 and I'm honestly a little meh on all that sampling time because something with that much time tends to be something I'll record a long loop on and let it keep going for a while. But after a certain number of repeats the DX16 loops have completely degraded and you have to restart the loop which comes back in at full volume and clarity. Not necessarily what Im going for in the moment. I dont know that its an issue with the middle of the fade knob not really being 'no fade' or if its an issue with degradation after 100 times through the loop or whatever but I end up using it about the same as my regular DX.

Good to know, these were my initial thoughts as well. I think 16 seconds is more realistic than 2 minutes, more than 4 seconds would add to the "fun" bit 2 minutes seems like it would be too much to be useful unless he is redesigning it in some other type of way, hard to know.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:58 pm
by zoooombiex
Yeah, I think I get the most use out of 30 seconds and under.

Really wish the revolver had time stretching. It still does a lot of cool stuff though.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:14 pm
by whoismarykelly
Glitches&switches wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:I have a DX16 and I'm honestly a little meh on all that sampling time because something with that much time tends to be something I'll record a long loop on and let it keep going for a while. But after a certain number of repeats the DX16 loops have completely degraded and you have to restart the loop which comes back in at full volume and clarity. Not necessarily what Im going for in the moment. I dont know that its an issue with the middle of the fade knob not really being 'no fade' or if its an issue with degradation after 100 times through the loop or whatever but I end up using it about the same as my regular DX.

Good to know, these were my initial thoughts as well. I think 16 seconds is more realistic than 2 minutes, more than 4 seconds would add to the "fun" bit 2 minutes seems like it would be too much to be useful unless he is redesigning it in some other type of way, hard to know.
The DX16 is nice for the ping pong setting on long drones and cloudy phrases. You can get a much less rhythmic feel with a longer loop. I'd really like to see a new feature set on a longer looper with some typical looper features on switches. Overdubbing would be especially nice.
zoooombiex wrote:Yeah, I think I get the most use out of 30 seconds and under.

Really wish the revolver had time stretching. It still does a lot of cool stuff though.
There is so much stuff on the market (and on my board already) that does time stretching that I don't miss it on the Revolvers. Especially since they do a couple things that haven't appeared on other pedals. If dude built a full-featured looper time stretch would be cool though.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:16 pm
by Glitches&switches
zoooombiex wrote:Yeah, I think I get the most use out of 30 seconds and under.

Really wish the revolver had time stretching. It still does a lot of cool stuff though.
Have you ever heard of Orgeldream Electronics? Dude in the UK who does circuit bent pedals, he developed the slaw which is a time stretching delay with weirdness and noise. He just built his first mk3 version of the slaw which is on it's way to me now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PokSBQuH7v0[/youtube]

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:34 pm
by whoismarykelly
That doesn't sound like time stretching. Just sounds like slowing down the delay time or halving the clock at times. Time stretch would be keeping a sample at the same pitch but stretching it out to a longer time.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:47 pm
by zoooombiex
whoismarykelly wrote:
zoooombiex wrote:Yeah, I think I get the most use out of 30 seconds and under.

Really wish the revolver had time stretching. It still does a lot of cool stuff though.
There is so much stuff on the market (and on my board already) that does time stretching that I don't miss it on the Revolvers. Especially since they do a couple things that haven't appeared on other pedals. If dude built a full-featured looper time stretch would be cool though.
Yeah, I'm happy to see the expansion of time stretching stuff. So far most of it seems to be on the short-length side, like 1-4 seconds. The idea of a 16-30 second looper with serious streching capabilities gets me goin :)

But totally agree, the Revolver does its own thing and has some unique loop mangling options that are great.

Re: HEXE

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:09 pm
by Glitches&switches
whoismarykelly wrote:That doesn't sound like time stretching. Just sounds like slowing down the delay time or halving the clock at times. Time stretch would be keeping a sample at the same pitch but stretching it out to a longer time.
I don't know that it is exactly time stretching but one switch does what you are hearing, the other lengthens the delay and downsamples the repeats is how I believe it works, at least that was my limited understanding, I will know more when I actually have my hands on it!