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Re: Count To Five

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:07 pm
by Seance
I spent a little while with a microphone plugged into the CT5 today.
Good times.

If I had a real microphone and an actual mic stand I would have been able
to do some double-fisted CT5 knob twisting. Anyhow. Here is the result.

microphone (passive and crappy) --> ProCo Rat --> CT5 --> Boss RE-20 --> computer (stereo in).

http://soundcloud.com/caesarshift/munch ... one-mantra

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:15 am
by multi_s
thanks to everyone for making really great demos!

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:47 am
by taco satori
Got my new one today. Haven't yet put it into transcendence mode, but I can say straight away that having the Q switch is awesome. I did notice that in the non-quantized mode, there's still the shift in delay times over a gradual period of time when DIR is forward and set to (near-)unison. However, a quick run-thru of a couple of the other Q modes at the same knob setting/result yields a stable delay time, which is just fine by me! Having one mode where it does the gradual ramping downward is kind of a cool option, IMO

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:43 am
by SecretMachine
Is there a way to save the Q setting it's set to? As in, if the pedal is set to 5th's then it's powered down, it'll be back on 5th's when powered up again?

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:01 pm
by zoooombiex
Got mine yesterday - very nice Scott! Definitely the best version yet, and transcendence mode is incredibly useful functionally/musically.

I had a couple questions though on the buffer behavior in transcendence mode - particularly mode 2. I read through the info on your site, and I think I understand what you described. It's probably easier to describe these if i recorded something, but I'll try to describe it.

First, mine does not seem to always reset the buffer length in mode 2 after stopping a loop and starting a new one. Specifically, any time you record a new loop that is shorter than the old loop, the new shorter length becomes the maximum possible length for the next loop - even if you completely stop the loop and try to record a new one. For example,

1. record a fresh 2 second loop in mode 2
2a. if you stop the loop and start recording a new one, the maximum length is 2 seconds. if you go over 2 seconds, it wraps around.
2b. if you stop the loop and record a new 1 second loop, the 1 second loop will function properly. but if you then stop that 1 second loop and try to record a new loop, 1 second is the new max time.
3. to reset the available buffer length, you can flip to mode 3 and back (with the loop not playing). then you have the full 8 seconds again.

I'm not sure if this is how it's supposed to behave, but it seems like once you stop a loop it would be nice to not be constrained by the prior loop's length.

Second, when you record over a loop (i.e., instead of stopping the loop and recording a new one, you hold down record while the old loop is playing), the buffer doesn't change regardless of how long or short the new loop is. For example,

if you record an 8 second loop, and then while it is playing you hold down record, play for 2 seconds, and then release record, it will play the entire 8 second loop with the new part you recorded overdubbed in. interestingly, the overdubbed material is always added to the beginning of the loop regardless of where in the loop you played it while recording.

alternatively, if you record a 2 second loop, and then while it is playing you press record and play for 4 seconds, you will still have a 2-second loop (with the 3rd & 4th seconds of what you play layered on top of the first two seconds).

i might be weird in my preferences, or maybe it's not possible, but i think it would be nice if it ignored the prior buffer length when recording a new loop over top. so whether the new loop is longer or shorter than the old one, whatever length you recorded for the new loop (up to the max) is the new length.

If I'm totally confused, or if this is totally confusing, sorry.

EDIT: one more thought, i like the way it retains the buffer length when you transcend into mode 1 (and then you can shorten it from there). though it would also be nice to be able to reset the buffer without having to flip to another mode, stop the loop, and then flip back. would it be possible to make it so that if you just tap the soft switch in mode 1 it resets the buffer length to normal? (or maybe hold the soft switch and twist the length knob?)

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:00 pm
by infamousalien
I want one of these really bad now. :thumb:

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:03 pm
by kboman

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:39 pm
by multi_s
zoooombiex wrote: Second, when you record over a loop (i.e., instead of stopping the loop and recording a new one, you hold down record while the old loop is playing), the buffer doesn't change regardless of how long or short the new loop is. For example,

if you record an 8 second loop, and then while it is playing you hold down record, play for 2 seconds, and then release record, it will play the entire 8 second loop with the new part you recorded overdubbed in. interestingly, the overdubbed material is always added to the beginning of the loop regardless of where in the loop you played it while recording.

alternatively, if you record a 2 second loop, and then while it is playing you press record and play for 4 seconds, you will still have a 2-second loop (with the 3rd & 4th seconds of what you play layered on top of the first two seconds).

i might be weird in my preferences, or maybe it's not possible, but i think it would be nice if it ignored the prior buffer length when recording a new loop over top. so whether the new loop is longer or shorter than the old one, whatever length you recorded for the new loop (up to the max) is the new length.
This is how it is with transcendence on for mode 2. The goal was to give a real time randomization feature. So as you said the length of buffer is determined by the first recording from stop.

If you want it to be the length of the second loop you need to not be in transcendence mode. What you are requesting is how it works in normal mode.
zoooombiex wrote: First, mine does not seem to always reset the buffer length in mode 2 after stopping a loop and starting a new one. Specifically, any time you record a new loop that is shorter than the old loop, the new shorter length becomes the maximum possible length for the next loop - even if you completely stop the loop and try to record a new one. For example,
It should allow a new length but maybe it is a bug, i will check it out. In the mean time try bypassing, turning off and on transcendence, and then re record, it should do as you want.

zoooombiex wrote:EDIT: one more thought, i like the way it retains the buffer length when you transcend into mode 1 (and then you can shorten it from there). though it would also be nice to be able to reset the buffer without having to flip to another mode, stop the loop, and then flip back. would it be possible to make it so that if you just tap the soft switch in mode 1 it resets the buffer length to normal? (or maybe hold the soft switch and twist the length knob?)
most likely you can do this again just by bypassing, going in and out of transcendence and then re engaging. When you go from transcendence enabled->disabled it should clear the buffer and when you re engage it will use mode one as the parent mode of transcendence, buffer length is as in normal mode.

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:59 pm
by zoooombiex
multi_s wrote:
zoooombiex wrote: Second, when you record over a loop (i.e., instead of stopping the loop and recording a new one, you hold down record while the old loop is playing), the buffer doesn't change regardless of how long or short the new loop is. For example,

if you record an 8 second loop, and then while it is playing you hold down record, play for 2 seconds, and then release record, it will play the entire 8 second loop with the new part you recorded overdubbed in. interestingly, the overdubbed material is always added to the beginning of the loop regardless of where in the loop you played it while recording.

alternatively, if you record a 2 second loop, and then while it is playing you press record and play for 4 seconds, you will still have a 2-second loop (with the 3rd & 4th seconds of what you play layered on top of the first two seconds).

i might be weird in my preferences, or maybe it's not possible, but i think it would be nice if it ignored the prior buffer length when recording a new loop over top. so whether the new loop is longer or shorter than the old one, whatever length you recorded for the new loop (up to the max) is the new length.
This is how it is with transcendence on for mode 2. The goal was to give a real time randomization feature. So as you said the length of buffer is determined by the first recording from stop.

If you want it to be the length of the second loop you need to not be in transcendence mode. What you are requesting is how it works in normal mode.
thanks! I may not have explained that very well, but I understand what you're saying. I think i was going for a hybrid, where it would do the real-time randomization (perhaps based on the last loop length), but then once you released the soft switch the length of the loop would be the full length that you had it held down. i was thinking of something like the EHX 16 second delay, where it will play back in real-time (though not randomized), but then when you engage the loop it just plays the full length of the available buffer. But it sounds like here there is just one buffer in use, so the length used for the real-time playback is necessarily the same as the resulting loop.
multi_s wrote:
zoooombiex wrote: First, mine does not seem to always reset the buffer length in mode 2 after stopping a loop and starting a new one. Specifically, any time you record a new loop that is shorter than the old loop, the new shorter length becomes the maximum possible length for the next loop - even if you completely stop the loop and try to record a new one. For example,
It should allow a new length but maybe it is a bug, i will check it out. In the mean time try bypassing, turning off and on transcendence, and then re record, it should do as you want.
it also seems that I can clear the buffer by going to mode 3, stopping the loop, then going back to mode 2. FWIW, mode 3 doesn't seem to have the issue i described - once you stop a loop, it appears the buffer length is wiped, since the length of the next loop you record is independent of the prior one.
multi_s wrote:
zoooombiex wrote:EDIT: one more thought, i like the way it retains the buffer length when you transcend into mode 1 (and then you can shorten it from there). though it would also be nice to be able to reset the buffer without having to flip to another mode, stop the loop, and then flip back. would it be possible to make it so that if you just tap the soft switch in mode 1 it resets the buffer length to normal? (or maybe hold the soft switch and twist the length knob?)
most likely you can do this again just by bypassing, going in and out of transcendence and then re engaging. When you go from transcendence enabled->disabled it should clear the buffer and when you re engage it will use mode one as the parent mode of transcendence, buffer length is as in normal mode.
yeah, i suppose this one is just me being lazy. jumping to mode 3, stopping the loop, and back to 1 seems to work.

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:59 pm
by kboman
Good evening! I uploaded four taster clips to Instagram this evening but for whatever idiotic reason can't direct link to them. So here is my adddress: https://www.instagram.com/kbospeak/

Enjoy :)

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:04 am
by multi_s
kboman wrote:Good evening! I uploaded four taster clips to Instagram this evening but for whatever idiotic reason can't direct link to them. So here is my adddress: https://www.instagram.com/kbospeak/

Enjoy :)
great clips !

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:34 am
by voerking
any update on the new firmware update for us rev h/i folks?

i, too, have CT5 videos on my IG page: https://www.instagram.com/voerking/
the top 4 videos have the CT5 in them, as well as a few more lower down...

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:16 pm
by multi_s
voerking wrote:any update on the new firmware update for us rev h/i folks?

i, too, have CT5 videos on my IG page: https://www.instagram.com/voerking/
the top 4 videos have the CT5 in them, as well as a few more lower down...
great stuff! I will release the update in the coming weeks.

s

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:17 am
by ech0es
i'm thinking about a programmable CT5 with this stuff from gigrig :
http://www.thegigrig.com/thegigrig-autopot-c2x19427686

what do you think ?

Re: Count To Five

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:17 pm
by multi_s
ech0es wrote:i'm thinking about a programmable CT5 with this stuff from gigrig :
http://www.thegigrig.com/thegigrig-autopot-c2x19427686

what do you think ?
looks pretty intense but also pretty cool.

s