The All Nude New Gear Announcements 2023'd

[Tall Walls]

I've been learning the ways of the MOOD MKII for the past few days. At first I was very pleased, but as I get deeper into it...I wouldn't say I'm not pleased, but I'm coming to the sad realization that I shouldn't have sold my MKI. I naively thought that the "Classic" mode on the MKII would sound like the MKI, but it doesn't. The "Classic" mode replicates some of the behaviors of the MKI, but the overall sound quality of the MKII is very different from the MKI and that doesn't change in "Classic" mode. The loops on the MKI had this mushy, dark quality that I grew to appreciate, while the MKII's loops are very bright and almost metallic. There's a tone control for the Wet side, so you can tame the brightness of the reverb especially (which I found ridiculously harsh with the tone at its default max setting), but there's no tone control for the looping side. This is peculiar to me, since metallic clangorousness is not really very MOODy.

I think I'm feeling bummed because the Envelope mode was my favorite on the MKI, and it just doesn't sound the same on the MKII. It seems like there's a slight volume drop when the stuttering kicks in, so I can never get the mix to sound right. The stereo option for Envelope mode makes the stutters jump from ear to ear, which is okay but I grew tired of it quickly. I've opted to set it up so that the stereo effects only apply to the Wet side. The stereo effect for Tape mode is another peculiar choice, where the loop plays forward in one ear and backward in the other, effectively chopping the range of the Modify control in half. In mono you can have your loop playing forward or backward, but in stereo it's always doing both.

In short, the MKII does a lot of interesting new things, but don't sell your MKI if you don't have to.

[Seance]

In short, the MKII does a lot of interesting new things, but don't sell your MKI if you don't have to.

Interesting.

[Dandolin]

Are you nerds talking about compressors and chori?

laowiz kilt ma fuzz GAS

[Gone Fission]

There was a dealer leak of upcoming Squier Paranormal models for 2023 that a search will find you pics for. The one that’s teasing me is a Jazzmaster XII thing—fixed 12 string bridge along the lines of a hard-tail Strat, so not a repro of the XII bridge, but the full XII style headstock. Jazzmaster pickups, and Fender has put out interesting replacement options with the CuNiFe WRHB for JM and the single coil CuNiFe/Cobalt Chrome JM set. Speculatively, demand might outstrip supply for that model this year. Imma gonna try to sell some stuff to be able to lock a preorder.

[Blackened Soul]

There was a dealer leak of upcoming Squier Paranormal models for 2023 that a search will find you pics for. The one that’s teasing me is a Jazzmaster XII thing—fixed 12 string bridge along the lines of a hard-tail Strat, so not a repro of the XII bridge, but the full XII style headstock. Jazzmaster pickups, and Fender has put out interesting replacement options with the CuNiFe WRHB for JM and the single coil CuNiFe/Cobalt Chrome JM set. Speculatively, demand might outstrip supply for that model this year. Imma gonna try to sell some stuff to be able to lock a preorder.

That new Rascal Bass though!
That's one of the closest they've come to something like one of my frankensteins in a long time... where if I didn't have something similar I'd really want that... kind'a still do.. but I'm still waiting on a Schecter pre-order so no new axes for me for a long while

[Cody_Pole]

I've been learning the ways of the MOOD MKII for the past few days. At first I was very pleased, but as I get deeper into it...I wouldn't say I'm not pleased, but I'm coming to the sad realization that I shouldn't have sold my MKI. I naively thought that the "Classic" mode on the MKII would sound like the MKI, but it doesn't. The "Classic" mode replicates some of the behaviors of the MKI, but the overall sound quality of the MKII is very different from the MKI and that doesn't change in "Classic" mode. The loops on the MKI had this mushy, dark quality that I grew to appreciate, while the MKII's loops are very bright and almost metallic. There's a tone control for the Wet side, so you can tame the brightness of the reverb especially (which I found ridiculously harsh with the tone at its default max setting), but there's no tone control for the looping side. This is peculiar to me, since metallic clangorousness is not really very MOODy.

I think I'm feeling bummed because the Envelope mode was my favorite on the MKI, and it just doesn't sound the same on the MKII. It seems like there's a slight volume drop when the stuttering kicks in, so I can never get the mix to sound right. The stereo option for Envelope mode makes the stutters jump from ear to ear, which is okay but I grew tired of it quickly. I've opted to set it up so that the stereo effects only apply to the Wet side. The stereo effect for Tape mode is another peculiar choice, where the loop plays forward in one ear and backward in the other, effectively chopping the range of the Modify control in half. In mono you can have your loop playing forward or backward, but in stereo it's always doing both.

In short, the MKII does a lot of interesting new things, but don't sell your MKI if you don't have to.

I got mine yesterday and have not tried the classic mode but I can agree so far any of the things you may have loved about the MK I are harder to dial in that being said I still have my MK I as I was planning on using both on my board for different functions and so far that game plan seems to be panning out nicely!!

[coupleonapkins]

There was a dealer leak of upcoming Squier Paranormal models for 2023 that a search will find you pics for. The one that’s teasing me is a Jazzmaster XII thing—fixed 12 string bridge along the lines of a hard-tail Strat, so not a repro of the XII bridge, but the full XII style headstock. Jazzmaster pickups, and Fender has put out interesting replacement options with the CuNiFe WRHB for JM and the single coil CuNiFe/Cobalt Chrome JM set. Speculatively, demand might outstrip supply for that model this year. Imma gonna try to sell some stuff to be able to lock a preorder.

OffsetGuitarsForum link 4 all those who may bee lazyee

Will twist a neck 4 a couple of those 12 stringers how about dat Also, as a former OSG member, I feel a near-obligation to purchase one, since their 12-string petition has been on the top of that thread for way too manny yeers :millerhighlife:: :::smokemifyergottharman:::

The Esquire WRHB should've bean a thing for awhile now (even as a Fender), so I'm glad it's a Squier reality, with the 3-way switch n' everything

[Paul_C]

My set of new Cobalt Chrome Telecaster pickups arriced today, and I put them in my green Tele.

They sound very nice so far

[Dandolin]

That new Rascal Bass though!

[Gone Fission]

Someone on the OSG thread popped the plausible idea that Esquire Deluxe was designed so people would buy at least one CuNiFe WRHB to drop in.

Interested in impressions of what the Cobalt Chrome brings to the table in a Tele pickup. Demos of the new models are leaving me most impressed with the JM-sized WRHB, tho—it would have to be an expensive set.

[Tall Walls]

I got mine yesterday and have not tried the classic mode but I can agree so far any of the things you may have loved about the MK I are harder to dial in that being said I still have my MK I as I was planning on using both on my board for different functions and so far that game plan seems to be panning out nicely!!

Yeah, I should say some good things about the MOOD MKII instead of just moping because I was a dumbass and sold my MKI. It felt wrong to be selling a pedal I was getting a lot of use out of, but I'm not made of money and it seemed reasonable to think the MKII would make the MKI redundant. It probably depends on how you use the MOOD. I just really liked the sound of the MKI.

The flexibility the MKII affords is really nice, though. Being able to overdub on the looper side is great--you can build up a loop note-by-note instead of catching a loop by chance. And you can punch in blank spots by turning the looper off for a moment. The stereo spread on the reverb is lovely. And they've implemented two features that I specifically thought the MKI was lacking: the option to have the clock be continuous instead of stepped, and the ability to keep your loop when you switch modes on the looper side (a la the Count to 5's "transcendence" feature). It makes a world of difference to grab a loop in one mode, realize that it's better suited to another mode, and be able to switch it. And you can mix things up in a million ways--create a loop in Envelope mode, switch it to Stretch mode and do an overdub, and then switch it back to Envelope mode and see what you get. The smooth clock is a gnarlier tool. I like it because you can get loops that aren't just multiples of the shortest loop time, but if you turn the clock knob after you've recorded your loop you have to be okay with never getting back to your original pitch. It must be possible, but I've only been able to get the most Shaggs-sounding dissonance, always a little too sharp or a little too flat. I'm a little ambivalent about Chase Bliss implementing hidden features, but I appreciate the features so I can't complain. Turning down the feedback on the looper and using it like a weird delay is the sort of thing that could be a whole pedal on its own from another company.

Will I re-buy an original MOOD, or will I just grow accustomed to the new MOOD? I'm not sure.

[coupleonapkins]

Revamped/new n' improv'd DBA Exit Index from the guy who designed it's new outfit, Trap Door Electronics:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FKv-1XmdSs

[Cody_Pole]

I got mine yesterday and have not tried the classic mode but I can agree so far any of the things you may have loved about the MK I are harder to dial in that being said I still have my MK I as I was planning on using both on my board for different functions and so far that game plan seems to be panning out nicely!!

Yeah, I should say some good things about the MOOD MKII instead of just moping because I was a dumbass and sold my MKI. It felt wrong to be selling a pedal I was getting a lot of use out of, but I'm not made of money and it seemed reasonable to think the MKII would make the MKI redundant. It probably depends on how you use the MOOD. I just really liked the sound of the MKI.

The flexibility the MKII affords is really nice, though. Being able to overdub on the looper side is great--you can build up a loop note-by-note instead of catching a loop by chance. And you can punch in blank spots by turning the looper off for a moment. The stereo spread on the reverb is lovely. And they've implemented two features that I specifically thought the MKI was lacking: the option to have the clock be continuous instead of stepped, and the ability to keep your loop when you switch modes on the looper side (a la the Count to 5's "transcendence" feature). It makes a world of difference to grab a loop in one mode, realize that it's better suited to another mode, and be able to switch it. And you can mix things up in a million ways--create a loop in Envelope mode, switch it to Stretch mode and do an overdub, and then switch it back to Envelope mode and see what you get. The smooth clock is a gnarlier tool. I like it because you can get loops that aren't just multiples of the shortest loop time, but if you turn the clock knob after you've recorded your loop you have to be okay with never getting back to your original pitch. It must be possible, but I've only been able to get the most Shaggs-sounding dissonance, always a little too sharp or a little too flat. I'm a little ambivalent about Chase Bliss implementing hidden features, but I appreciate the features so I can't complain. Turning down the feedback on the looper and using it like a weird delay is the sort of thing that could be a whole pedal on its own from another company.

Will I re-buy an original MOOD, or will I just grow accustomed to the new MOOD? I'm not sure.

If I may ask how are you using the looper side like a delay? I've read the manual and still haven't quite figured it out

[Teej212]

there are two ways -

the simple way to use it as a live effect is just to turn on the refresh dip switch. then you will have a live effect, but there wont be any decay. its just a one and done play through of the live loop.

the more advanced way is to leave the refresh dip OFF. Then you hold both footswitches to enter the hidden options menu (indicated by both footswitch leds being green). While holding those footswitches you can turn down the loop decay setting by turning the LENGTH knob. This lets you have anywhere between a lot and a little decay.

you have to be in the overdubbing state for this to work in both modes, so hold down the microlooping footswitch until the led turns red.

re: the different sounds of mki vs mkii. mki just has severely limited bandwidth so its a lot darker. mkii has nearly a full audio spectrum of bandwidth. we could have tried to make it 100% identical, but this seemed like an easy choice to give us really clean and clear loops. certainly jarring if youre used to the darker sound of the mki.

[Tall Walls]

re: the different sounds of mki vs mkii. mki just has severely limited bandwidth so its a lot darker. mkii has nearly a full audio spectrum of bandwidth. we could have tried to make it 100% identical, but this seemed like an easy choice to give us really clean and clear loops. certainly jarring if youre used to the darker sound of the mki.

That reminds me to follow up on my earlier comment that I felt like there was a bit of a volume dip when the stutters occur in Envelope mode. At first I thought that it was due to the same issue that causes perceived volume drop in tremolo effects, and that might be part of it. But I think it's mostly due to the clarity of the MKII meaning that the note decay is more accurately captured, so if I have a sparse loop and I'm making it stutter I'm mostly making the decay tails stutter. The MKI's lower bandwidth seemed to act a little like a compressor. I don't notice the volume issue if I'm feeding the MKII a distorted tone.