EHX Green Big Muff Reissue

[Chankgeez]

Good to know. If anyone speaks with authority on Muffs, it's you. Thanks for all your Muff work.

[kevdes93]

Mine arrives tomorrow, ill let you guys know how it sounds

[tremolo3]

I compared it to a bunch of Civil War/Tall Font Sovteks in my collection, and this is THAT sound and tone pot range.

So would you say that Civil War/Tall Font are as inconsistent as Muffs from the 70s if you had to compare the Reissue against a bunch?

[Kitrae]

Not all all. The circuit in the Civil War/Tall Font Sovteks was very consistent. They don't all sound identical because of component value tolerances, but they are not that far off from each other.

Those 1970s Big Muffs had such a wide range of sounds because there were over 20 different versions of the circuit made.

[tremolo3]

Oh man... I knew Triangles and Ram's Head were inconsistent, but that bad?

I'm wondering how a Ram's Head reissue would sound. I've listened The Caprid and the Vick Audio and both sound really different from each other

And now that you are here, do you have a favorite Ram's Head clone?

[MechaGodzilla]

I've tried 4 Russian clones (that I remember ) and they all sounded quite different.

Fredric - kind of gritty, less compressed, very guitar-friendly tone
Madebymike - I didn't like it, had a mids knob, didn't sound much like the fredric
W&C Box of War - like the fredric but "smoother" (more compressed?) with a lot more low-mids and gain.
EFE Dope Priest #7 - huge low end, quite compressed, between the fredric and w&c for amount of gain

curious about the new one but also fed up of muffs really. I only have the fredric right now, I'd totally have either a Priest or BoW again in future.

[agiant]

On the bright side, Kit Rae said they "nailed it".

I did say that, and they did.

It's not the Bubble Font/Black Russian sound, or another tweaked version like the BBM, BBM nano, and Deluxe Bass Big Muff. I compared it to a bunch of Civil War/Tall Font Sovteks in my collection, and this is THAT sound and tone pot range.

That is what I needed to read. Ordering mine right now.

Thanks for the info and for your awesome muff website.

[GardenoftheDead]

Not all all. The circuit in the Civil War/Tall Font Sovteks was very consistent. They don't all sound identical because of component value tolerances, but they are not that far off from each other.

Plus I'm pretty sure components decay over time so the vintage examples could end up sounding different from each other just from different rates of drift.

[Kitrae]

Oh man... I knew Triangles and Ram's Head were inconsistent, but that bad?

There are over 30 if you include the triangles They were actually fairly consistent if you compare several from the same run that shared the same schematic. It's just that they kept changing the schematic. That was just the nature of how it was done back then.

I'm wondering how a Ram's Head reissue would sound.

Therein lies the problem. Which of the 20+ versions of the Ram's head should EHX use? They don't all sound different, but they could be subdivided into 4-5 variations on the tone. No matter which one EHX picked, I'm sure half the muff users would say it is the wrong one.

I've listened The Caprid and the Vick Audio and both sound really different from each other

The Vick and Caprid are not based on the same version of the circuit.

And now that you are here, do you have a favorite Ram's Head clone?

The Cornish P-1. There are lots of other good ones though. It just depends on what flavor you want and what kind of music you are using it for.

[Kitrae]

Not all all. The circuit in the Civil War/Tall Font Sovteks was very consistent. They don't all sound identical because of component value tolerances, but they are not that far off from each other.

Plus I'm pretty sure components decay over time so the vintage examples could end up sounding different from each other just from different rates of drift.

I think most of the capacitance loss and resistor change happens in the first few years of use. I have taken a few of those Russians apart and measured the components. They were around 20 years old at the time, but most of the caps and resistors were within spec. They were much more in spec that some of the old US made EHX circuits were! Some of the ceramics had lost a bit of capacitance and a few of the resistors measured slightly over spec, but nothing drastic.

[GardenoftheDead]

ah, interesting!

[tremolo3]

The Cornish P-1. There are lots of other good ones though. It just depends on what flavor you want and what kind of music you are using it for.

Well, fuck it, I need to start somewhere so I'll get a couple of the ~$100 ones first and maybe I'll build another one.

Thanks man! And that website... 100/10

[the5chord]

Wow, just read on Youtube and saw a linked letter that Mike Matthews sent to a dealer as a "cease and desists" for intellectual property infringement. It was about the Wren and Cuff Eye See Pi. Seems like homie is going to be getting into some murky waters if he's not careful. That sucks.

We all know how much Mike Matthews hates people stealing intellectual property. That's why he is going after Ibanez for stealing his idea for the East River Drive and Bill Finnegan for make an expensive boutique pedal out of his Soul Food pedal.

[D.o.S.]

Apparently it was about the graphic, not the circuit.

[Kitrae]

We all know how much Mike Matthews hates people stealing intellectual property. That's why he is going after Ibanez for stealing his idea for the East River Drive and Bill Finnegan for make an expensive boutique pedal out of his Soul Food pedal.

Maybe it was a delayed reaction to Ibanez selling ripoffs of the Big Muff circuit in 1974, then again in 1982, then again in 1990, then again in 2016