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Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:05 am
by cloudscapes
I might do a refresh of the vibrato this year (later). No huge changes. Back to the smaller enclosure, minus the crackle which didn't work well to begin with. And maybe a few better LFO shapes. Mainly because I need one for myself. If it's simple enough to build, will make a batch.
This will probably happen before any mechanical sun / nautilus stuff. Probably.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:21 am
by Strange Tales
Remove crackle -> Put in second waveform knob -> allow combining of waveforms
I'll send you my paypal for that idea.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:23 am
by Inconuucl
I want to learn to make digital effects, I have the programming behind me, just need to get the rest.
I'd jump on that vibrato if you do, will it be vibrato/chorus or no mix knob?

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:24 am
by Inconuucl
Strange Tales wrote:Remove crackle -> Put in second waveform knob -> allow combining of waveforms.
Split the signal into 2 using a LPF and a HPF, then apply independent vibrato on each.

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:26 am
by cloudscapes
Strange Tales wrote:Remove crackle -> Put in second waveform knob -> allow combining of waveforms
I'll send you my paypal for that idea.
I was thinking something along the lines of having two speed knobs for doing some cool out-of-phase beat-frequency stuff with the vibrato LFO. Not exactly the same idea, but yeah.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:28 am
by cloudscapes
Inconuucl wrote:I want to learn to make digital effects, I have the programming behind me, just need to get the rest.
I'd jump on that vibrato if you do, will it be vibrato/chorus or no mix knob?

Start with arduino and ready-made hardware. Doing the hardware stuff for high speed 32bit processors is a literal headache if you're just getting started. Stuff like ground fills for inductance/capacitance, just grounding rules become complex.
Def keeping the mix knob, the mkii has one.
And soft-stomp silent relay bypass. Like my delay. I'm forever done with 3PDTs.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:30 am
by Strange Tales
cloudscapes wrote:Strange Tales wrote:Remove crackle -> Put in second waveform knob -> allow combining of waveforms
I'll send you my paypal for that idea.
I was thinking something along the lines of having two speed knobs for doing some cool out-of-phase beat-frequency stuff with the vibrato LFO. Not exactly the same idea, but yeah.
Would definitely be cool to be able to tune the frequency and speed of two waveforms relatively. Can create some really cool stuff that way me thinks.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:30 am
by cloudscapes
Inconuucl wrote:Strange Tales wrote:Remove crackle -> Put in second waveform knob -> allow combining of waveforms.
Split the signal into 2 using a LPF and a HPF, then apply independent vibrato on each.

Sounds cool. Dont want to overcomplicate it though. I want to do a simple pedal I can actually build a batch of, for once.

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:33 am
by rustywire
Many snax

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:35 am
by cloudscapes
Another thing I def want to do with the vibrato, is have the LFO shape knob be a smooth transition between shapes. Like moog oscillators. The old one just switches between them. That should be easy to do with my current programming skill level. The hard part will just be deciding which shapes are next to each-other for the most interesting blends.
Ugh, so many ideas for a cool LFO, but again, I dont want to overcomplicate it into a 10-knob vibrato. If I do that I'll just be back to not making batches again. 4-5 knobs in small enclosure, tops.
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:37 am
by Wes Mantooth
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:45 am
by Chankgeez
I'd still probably buy some Sonic Crayon just for the way it looks. I'm sometimes shallow like that.

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:49 am
by rustywire
cloudscapes wrote:Another thing I def want to do with the vibrato, is have the LFO shape knob be a smooth transition between shapes. Like moog oscillators. The old one just switches between them. That should be easy to do with my current programming skill level. The hard part will just be deciding which shapes are next to each-other for the most interesting blends.
Ugh, so many ideas for a cool LFO, but again, I dont want to overcomplicate it into a 10-knob vibrato. If I do that I'll just be back to not making batches again. 4-5 knobs in small enclosure, tops.
Big fan of this idea.
FWIW the wave shape pot on my Effectrode phaser at full counterclockwise goes from triangle to, rising tri, falling tri, sine, square, 4 stepped, 6 stepped, 8 stepped at full clockwise. Seems pretty logical...it would def be interesting to ramp from triangle to stepped

Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:24 pm
by cloudscapes
for the soft-stomp
tap to tap-tempo
hold >1 second for bypass toggle
does that make sense?
Re: Somethings a-brewing in the Sonic Crayon camp
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:30 pm
by Strange Tales
cloudscapes wrote:for the soft-stomp
tap to tap-tempo
hold >1 second for bypass toggle
does that make sense?
Yea, that's pretty awesome actually. This would make tap tempo only up to 1 second by design though, no? I don't know how long you've had it, or way anyone would need over 1 second on their vibrato time, but yea.
Either way, I'm buying all of your shit until I'm in the grave whenever it gets made.