Toropicana wrote:There's probably gonna be new EQDxDBA in the making too.
Doubt that. EQD simply wrote "no" when people asked. Kinda like what CBA should have done.
I fall on the side of the fence of those who are pissed by the whole gonna make more thing. I'll start off by saying I'm not a flipper/scalper and in fact am fairly vocal about how anti I am to the practice. To me, it is the equivalent of ticket scalping and I just can't get behind scalping a ticket to my favorite band...I like to hook up other fans or more likely, hook up those who have looked out for me in the past. That's called community.
I was pretty vocal on CBAs social media about my disappointment with the make more comment. As someone with crazy GAS and a nice disposable income (which has amplified considerably during this pandemic due to the fact that I can't go to concerts or be social and I even sold my car in May) you can call me a pedal collector. I have more than 100 pedals and I enjoy playing with them. I have the collector bug. As a kid, I collected baseball cards, as I became an adult, I collected bourbon and chased the rare craft beer and these days I enjoy chasing pedals. People like me, we like the chase almost as much as the product itself. All that said, I'm not rich and due to my disgust for flippers/scalpers I won't pay the high prices...but I will compete with the scalpers on release day so that I can get my taste without having to pay the 2ndary market price.
We all knew this would sell out day of. Gen Loss sold out in about 8 hours and was a run of 1000 pedals and those sell for close to $1k on 2ndary (at least that's ask), so I, just like the other 999 people who sat at a computer when these went on sale knew this would sell out too and be flipped for profit. If you look at posts before the onsale, everyone is calling that this would have happened. Joel is a good guy...I'm not sure why he is playing the aw shucks card on the whole thing since he did nothing to prevent this. There was no limit of 1 pedal (and plenty of people admit to buying more than one), plus he sold these on reverb which is the service that enables this behavior. He could have done it through chase bliss or even asked reverb to make it 1 per person and not allow people to sell them at a markup for a certain period of time or asked for a cap on the markup, but he didn't. I'm not a sneaker head or watch person so I can't speak to those communities, but the beer/bourbon community dealt with this stuff years ago and the move is, just drop the product, make a small announcement or no announcement...don't tell how many...just let those who want it to buy it. The essays and other non-sense are just plain stupid, but there were many ways that this scenario could have been avoided.
Me being me though, I jumped at the chance to own a $1k pedal at retail cost...cause I like that kind of stuff and I know that I can always hook up another pedal nerd or trade something to level out the 2ndary market playing field (my real hope was to trade it for a gen loss). I traded an email or two with Joel (as he asked our opinion) and opted to return it to chase bliss for a full, to the penny, refund. This was before he announced the big return idea. While I tried to explain my opinion and quickly became the immoral enemy to anyone with a keyboard, I fielded tons of over cost offers and turned them all down. I know it's hard for people to understand, but not everything is about money or making a profit.
I used to chase Pappy Van Winkle bourbon bottles at MSRP, not because I wanted to sell them, but because I wanted to enjoy and share them without spending thousands of dollars. This was a case where the collectors, like me, got screwed. We got exploited by the company marketing us a limited thing-a-ma-jig and then we get exploited by the scalpers. Bear in mind that this was teased for weeks if not months, demos were made available as it went on sale, we all kinda knew what it was, but didn't see it fully until it was on sale and we had no idea how much it cost until it went on sale. All 1000 pedals were sold to people who were buying it no matter what it was.
Last point on this whole thing is that with shipping and tax, the pedal became $450, not $400. If it was sold via chase bliss, I'd have saved $50 due to free shipping and no tax. Many people overseas bought the pedal too because it was a buy it now or never see it in real life again kind of thing and they got slammed with crazy shipping fees that could have been fully avoided if they waited for the product to go mainline.
I sent it back to chase bliss today.
