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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:30 am
by MrNovember
I like modular and books and I have a coffee table so I think it'd be pretty cool to have. $70 is steep though and I'd much rather spend that on gear, but I figured Kickstarter might have some pretty decent rewards that would put it in a more reasonable price point

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:58 am
by echorec
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:Am I the only one that LOL'd at a kickstarter for a modular coffee table book?
You know self publishing costs next to nothing. I have known many, many, many publishers. It CAN be costly, but that shit right there is NOT a 70 dollar book. More like a 20 books being sold for 70. If I were going to go in on something like that, you better fucking wow me. I've bought many limited edition books and I know what they cost.
Based on the pics, I've seen, they invested thousands on their first book, before ever revealing it to the public. There's a world of difference between an entry-level, self-published book and something that looks like it came from an esteemed publisher.
Graphic designers aren't free. The two main people credited with creating it certainly did a lot of work---interviews, research, writing, organizational work on its basic formatting. They're also publishing for an extremely limited audience, when you compare it to other classifications.
I buy a lot of short-run books on architecture, design, and studio art from publishers like Rizzoli, Phaidon, Gestalten, Artpower, and Taschen. It's not uncommon at all to see hardcover, medium/large-format photography books in the $60-90 range. These are active professionals, who need to be compensated for their time. Do I love the $70 price? ---No, but I don't find it shocking either, when I consider it was conceived, designed, and published in a professional manner.
PUSH TURN MOVE is written by Danish designer, author, lecturer and electronic musician Kim Bjørn and edited by Mike Metlay, editor at Recording Magazine and Paul Nagle, reviewer at Sound on Sound Magazine.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:12 pm
by BLOOD EAGLE
yeah i have a lot of art-books, they can definitely get pricey...
but if they only do one pressing, the will only just grow in value.
especially if modular continues to grow in popularity.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:21 pm
by shikawkee
My art book ended up costing about $22 US after pressing but we sure didn't charge $70. for it at retail.
It took a year and a half of planning and six months to choose the right paper and press but $70. sounds like a lot.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:22 pm
by repoman
Has anyone ever sold an art book that supposedly has a lot of value for anywhere near what appraisers say they are worth? Its like another phoney racket just like almost all contemporary art in general nowadays...
I have some that are supposedly worth $2500 according to places like abebooks but I bet if I stuck them on ebay or something I'd get 75 bucks for them if that.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:07 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:12 pm
by BLOOD EAGLE
repoman wrote:Has anyone ever sold an art book that supposedly has a lot of value for anywhere near what appraisers say they are worth? Its like another phoney racket just like almost all contemporary art in general nowadays...
I have some that are supposedly worth $2500 according to places like abebooks but I bet if I stuck them on ebay or something I'd get 75 bucks for them if that.
i didn’t promise anything like that...
i have sold a few artbooks over the years,
ALL of them have been at a profit, but the most was only double what i paid.
EBAY isn’t really the best place for books, unless you are trying to unload them fast.
books are usually a slow wait, but that is only in my experience.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:20 pm
by shikawkee
BLOOD EAGLE wrote:repoman wrote:Has anyone ever sold an art book that supposedly has a lot of value for anywhere near what appraisers say they are worth? Its like another phoney racket just like almost all contemporary art in general nowadays...
I have some that are supposedly worth $2500 according to places like abebooks but I bet if I stuck them on ebay or something I'd get 75 bucks for them if that.
i didn’t promise anything like that...
i have sold a few artbooks over the years,
ALL of them have been at a profit, but the most was only double what i paid.
EBAY isn’t really the best place for books, unless you are trying to unload them fast.
books are usually a slow wait, but that is only in my experience.
We sold out of all 1100 we printed so there could be some out there fetching more. But I doubt it.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:24 pm
by echorec
I like elements of this pedal, but I really wish someone would just finally make a DSP-driven reverb with stacked, self-oscillating modes. I enjoy the Empress & Mercury7, but there's so much stuff I want to do with reverb, and I don't want to have to track down 30 units to get there.
The Sentient mode reminds me of the Mondegreen and the Night Wire, which I already have, but the stuff around 3:20 makes me think of a lost Radiohead EP. I imagine I could do this already with delays/verbs, but not necessarily as smoothly or as quickly.
...also, what is up with all the high frequencies in this video? It seems to be happening, even when the pedal is bypassed. I keep thinking my oven timer is going off.
TONE/OSC Tone control (LPF) - for the Reverb trail. When set to zero (counter clockwise), a slow oscillation begins that sounds as if you’re spinning slowly. At this setting, the Low Pass Filter is Self Oscillating from zero to max at a rate of 4 seconds per cycle.
SENTIENT MODE - Deeply immersive reverb with added modulation. A cross between tremolo and filter. Control the modulation with your playing dynamics or by using the LFO controls.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFsK795Z2_c[/youtube]
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:36 pm
by Dandolin
echorec wrote:I like elements of this pedal, but I really wish someone would just finally make a DSP-driven reverb with stacked, self-oscillating modes.
Interesting. You mean like one mode=two self-oscillating reverbs stacked serially? Or self-oscillating delay and reverb?
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:40 pm
by echorec
Tweaked modulation and adjusted range...I'm kind of curious who uses these and/or Pogs instead of the other stuff available? I like the Organizer, because it's simpler, but the Pitch Factor seems to deliver a lot more & isn't that much more used. V1s are now heavily discounted at some shops.
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Af5m-UT7Bs[/youtube]
Who is excited to pay $350 for a plug-in that requires an external controller to access its deepest features? This seems like the exact opposite of what people want----an affordable, standalone unit with a bonus editor, that allows them to break away from their computer.
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ahg6HAe_w[/youtube]
The stompbox world is a bit stale to me right now. Hopefully Superbooth (about 16 days away) will deliver a lot of cool stuff on the synth front.
clips--
https://www.instagram.com/pghmodular/

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:55 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:19 pm
by Teej212
yeah, for what I thought was gonna be CBA's most vanilla pedal, this thing is pretty awesome sounding! definitely not vanilla
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:21 pm
by Chankgeez
Might be the most versatile CBA yet?

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:38 am
by jrfox92
echorec wrote:Who is excited to pay $350 for a plug-in that requires an external controller to access its deepest features? This seems like the exact opposite of what people want----an affordable, standalone unit with a bonus editor, that allows them to break away from their computer.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ahg6HAe_w[/youtube]
Yeah, I was actually pretty excited about this until I realized it's nothing more than a plugin with a stupid fucking controller.
It seems that Behringer's takeover has really been wearing down TC Electronic this last year or so.
Oh, I just saw this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvuV2mdGmNA[/youtube]
It seems Wampler's always coming out with pedals that seem to be kinda comparable to smaller (and, imo, better) company's pedals.
