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Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:36 pm
by 01010111
wfs1234 wrote:chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:Full review...
Email me at
joel@chaseblissaudio.com
There's a lot you can do with internal trimmers. We try to calibrate it to please the most people, and I'm a little hesitant to post the trimmer info for the whole world to see because it would result in a lot of messed up pedals, but I think you'll be able to get it how you like with a couple trimmer twists.
Talk soon,
Joel
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Holy shit! After making a few of the adjustments he mentioned it fixes alllllll my gripes about it. I love it. Need to put it through its paces again, but the initial results have blown me out of the water

Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:23 am
by chaseblissaudio
wfs1234 wrote:wfs1234 wrote:chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:Full review...
Email me at
joel@chaseblissaudio.com
There's a lot you can do with internal trimmers. We try to calibrate it to please the most people, and I'm a little hesitant to post the trimmer info for the whole world to see because it would result in a lot of messed up pedals, but I think you'll be able to get it how you like with a couple trimmer twists.
Talk soon,
Joel
EMAILED
Holy shit! After making a few of the adjustments he mentioned it fixes alllllll my gripes about it. I love it. Need to put it through its paces again, but the initial results have blown me out of the water

that's just the thing. Delays are just sooooo personal for folks. It's funny though, I think you like yours set more how I like mine set up. It seems like a big "thing" is that folks want 50/50 wet/dry mix to be at 75% off the mix knob. That was the overwhelming feedback I got at NAMM. So that's basically how I made it.
These things are insane to calibrate.
So there's a part of me that doesn't want people to touch the trimmers (especially for the sensitive stuff) but I could tell from the needs you expressed in your message that it'd likely be something that could be addressed by some tweaks.
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:15 am
by PeteeBee
That's so rad that Joel got in here and got that diagnosed. I am one of those people that like mix knob exactly how it is, factory speced. I've flipped many delays because above noon on the mix knob the repeats are louder than my dry signal, which isn't something I ever want.
Couldn't be happier with the TR. Haven't actually played with it off for more than a minute since getting it. It is just so pretty!
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:38 am
by 01010111
chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:wfs1234 wrote:chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:Full review...
Email me at
joel@chaseblissaudio.com
There's a lot you can do with internal trimmers. We try to calibrate it to please the most people, and I'm a little hesitant to post the trimmer info for the whole world to see because it would result in a lot of messed up pedals, but I think you'll be able to get it how you like with a couple trimmer twists.
Talk soon,
Joel
EMAILED
Holy shit! After making a few of the adjustments he mentioned it fixes alllllll my gripes about it. I love it. Need to put it through its paces again, but the initial results have blown me out of the water

that's just the thing. Delays are just sooooo personal for folks. It's funny though, I think you like yours set more how I like mine set up. It seems like a big "thing" is that folks want 50/50 wet/dry mix to be at 75% off the mix knob. That was the overwhelming feedback I got at NAMM. So that's basically how I made it.
These things are insane to calibrate.
So there's a part of me that doesn't want people to touch the trimmers (especially for the sensitive stuff) but I could tell from the needs you expressed in your message that it'd likely be something that could be addressed by some tweaks.
I think every effect is super personal, but when it comes to essential effects like delay and dirt people get passionate! I spent double the money on a pedal once because it had EXACTLY what I wanted in every way (and I felt so strangely guilty when I eventually found a pedal to replace it).
That 50/50 thing's weird, but I know when I record that I have to back off the mix from what actually feels good to me. So, for recording purposes the original settings are just just about perfect. But when I'm playing the dry signal always feels soooo much louder (and if you're playing at apartment volumes you're already fighting to hear as much of the electric signal as possible). I don't doubt that these are insane to calibrate! With the extremely minor adjustments I made I heard a HUGE difference (definitely going to keep that trimmer info to myself too). I am very very VERY happy with the Tonal Recall now
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Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:11 am
by ech0es
wfs1234 wrote:wfs1234 wrote:chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:Full review...
Email me at
joel@chaseblissaudio.com
There's a lot you can do with internal trimmers. We try to calibrate it to please the most people, and I'm a little hesitant to post the trimmer info for the whole world to see because it would result in a lot of messed up pedals, but I think you'll be able to get it how you like with a couple trimmer twists.
Talk soon,
Joel
EMAILED
Holy shit! After making a few of the adjustments he mentioned it fixes alllllll my gripes about it. I love it. Need to put it through its paces again, but the initial results have blown me out of the water

Can you tell us what did you do to the trimmers ?
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:54 am
by 01010111
ech0es wrote:wfs1234 wrote:wfs1234 wrote:chaseblissaudio wrote:wfs1234 wrote:Full review...
Email me at
joel@chaseblissaudio.com
There's a lot you can do with internal trimmers. We try to calibrate it to please the most people, and I'm a little hesitant to post the trimmer info for the whole world to see because it would result in a lot of messed up pedals, but I think you'll be able to get it how you like with a couple trimmer twists.
Talk soon,
Joel
EMAILED
Holy shit! After making a few of the adjustments he mentioned it fixes alllllll my gripes about it. I love it. Need to put it through its paces again, but the initial results have blown me out of the water

Can you tell us what did you do to the trimmers ?
I don't think I should post about them.... Some of the trimmers are EXTREMELY sensitive to changes. For instance two of the trimmers he suggested adjusting were highly interactive and had massive changes when moved 1/64th of their overall travel... Unless Joel chimes in, I'm keeping my mouth shut...
The end result yielded only slightly louder delays (which was enough for the way I use it), and I adjusted the modulation so it's at it's max. The way I have them set right now makes the third delat mode kinda useless, but it made the other two a lot better volume-wise. And with another delay on my board it doesn't make that much difference, really.
Unless it's a dealbreaker, I'd leave it alone. The outcome isn't a HUGE change. I was just on the fence of being a fanboi and selling it, and that little bump in volume made a huge difference for me.
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:59 pm
by Willem
Joel posted this on TGP so you can explain everything:

Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:53 pm
by 01010111
I maxed out the mod depth (2), and raised the master volume (4) a hair. To get louder delays I had make a lot of tiny adjustments to 1, 5, 10, and 11. Every time you adjust 5 or 11, you'll probably have to adjust 1 (slight changes in either of those usually leads to runaway feedback). Five loses headroom super duper fast, and it's reeeeaaallllyy sensitive. Ten seems to adjust the relative levels of the first and second delays, I noticed that I got a lot more headroom and a bit more clean volume from the long delay when I minimized this one (this does make the third and first mode basically identical, though). Good luck, I just had to make lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of little changes to get everything right.
If you want to make the delay super loud, that's not going to happen. But if you want to tease out a little more volume, the secret's in adjusting 1, 5, 10, and 11. Adjusting 4 helped me a little too, and maxing the mod depth was only because I want maximum weirdness.
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:14 am
by Willem
I'm waiting for a new chip to replace my bottom BBD which seems not working very well (crackling effects on long mode with tone knob after 2 o'clock when I'm not playing, don't hear it on repeats when playing though). I explained Joel the problem, he knew immediately that I probably had a faulty chip and sent within an hour 2 new chips with the indications to replace it.
I'd probably try to get louder repeats on mine, I always have the mix set at 3 o'clock and the repeats are quiter on the long mode than repeats on the sort mode. But I'll wait until Wednesday 'cause I have a gig tomorrow and want to use a 'good' working TR although it's not optimal for my needs yet.
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:13 pm
by Willem
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:24 am
by 01010111
That could be handy? I just plan on using my ipad for all my midi sequencing needs. Seems like a nice solution if you aren't trying to midify everything, though.
Is he just mailing you a chip for you to pop into place? I'd think that the bias for each of the chips would have to be recalibrated unless the variance in manufacturing is INSANELY low?
Re: So who's preordering a Tonal Recall tomorrow?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:39 pm
by 01010111
Has anyone else had any luck with their trimmers?