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Yeah I would like a ditto x4 but have qualms about the size and switches. I have an infinity and it is staying but another looper would be nice for my synths. Ehx 16 second is nasty but not conventional at all. I would love the time streching of the 16 second with the reliability, switches, size of the infinity.

jrfox92 wrote: This is what you're actually pressing when you hit the footswitch. So, if you hit it hard enough, bye.

Yeah. NUX uses those as well. Never had a problem with them myself, but guess I don't take the "stomp" in stomp boxes too literally.

I don't think that I stomp too hard, but I'm not particularly light on my feet either...

I might give that repair a shot, it doesn't look too hard

Btw, has anyone tried the BOSS DD500 looper? It seems like the Timeline's without all of the MIDI-accessible features, which would be great for a lot of folks given that it can be found for half the price.

DD500 looper is garrrrrrbage

Yes, it's crap. and it does takes MIDI for the 4 controls available...

Why can't someone make a looper the size of the ditto with midi sync? Priced at 150 or so I would have a few around the studio and always be ready to record. I like looping bass and synths but am tired of having to unplug my guitar everytime and route a bunch of cables to make it work. I just need a bass and synth looper that can midi sync for cheap.

Alright y'all, so I want a Looper with the ability to store multiple loops, nothing too fancy over that though. I've found the Boss RC-3 and the EHX 720, both of which I like. Boss wins on footprint, EHX on having a reverse mode. Any opinions on the pair?

I feel like neither is perfect (purely on paper, haven't played either), is there anything super cool I'm missing?

I'd go EHX 720 over the RC-3, but that's because I hate single-footswitch loopers.

RC-3 is def better if you're primarily using it for live playback of loops (rather than live recording+overdubbing), since it can store 99 loops. You can get a second remote footswitch too.

Also look at the EHX 360 if you don't need 12+ loops, since if you don't then you're paying an extra $100 for the RC-3's awful "drum machine".

I recently "upgraded" from a Neewer Looper to a Rowin Loop Station. The build quality of the Rowin seems comparable to the Neewer (in a good way), though I chose to reference the idea of an upgrade with scare quotes for a reason. Though it has two additional modes, the Loop Station offers nothing new in terms of real-time recording. It only records forward loops at normal speed and the record function is disabled in reverse mode. Basically, you can only record a "normal" sounding loop that is not altered until the mode switch is manually adjusted to one of the other positions. The results can be interesting for a cheap micro pedal, though it's still a major pain to have to lean down and flip a switch as opposed to having remote operation or the ability to record reverse, half speed, or double speed loops in real time. I may "upgrade" to the double mini format version with a second footswitch if the half speed and reverse modes continue to keep my interest.

codetocontra wrote:Anyone use the Boomerang III with MIDI clock sync? Very interested in picking up the new Drumbrute and have a casual interest in syncing some loops.

Heard a rumor from somewhere that the Boomerang Side Car is no longer being made. Sort of a deal killer to not have it.

I have one never used the midi sync. I emailed them about using a regular midi controller since the sidecar isn't available and got this reply

When Boomerang is acquired by a new owner, the Side Car(TM) controller should be available again. Using a third party MIDI controller doesn't work well because though our SC sends MIDI commands, they are not standard in format and usage.

I hope Boomerang finds a buyer. The looper market is scarce and they made a solid product, would hate to see that disappear. Maybe the new buyers will put together a Rang IV with some newly improved features. A long time ago I sent Mike from Boomerang a long list of ideas to implement, and that is when our email exchange stopped. I guess it was too much. Regardless, I would consider a Rang III again someday.

I did not have a good experience with the Pigtronix Infinity but that was three years ago. Have they fixed the software yet. Is it stable now?

I recall a thread (not sure where) of people making suggestions on things to add to in future versions of either boomerang firm and/or hardware. And he kind of blew it off as not need and then said there aren't anymore updates because his partner had passed.

Which is a shame because it's going on 6-7 years old and some other loopers still can't touch it but it is slowly becoming outdated.
If X4 hadn't been such a dud I think it would have been a rang killer.

has the x4 firmware made that thing useable yet?
I'd love the ehx 720 if they loop seemelessly which don't think they do. .5 sec behind from what I gather.
might just add a ditto x2 to my akai e2 setup and call it good for the time being

The x4 could've been great, it got close.

I kinda want to get an arduino or an fv-1 and code my own looper on one of those bypass looper cases, for confusion's sake.

Granted, my dream looper has a lot of features I don't see often.

-two loops independent or chained
-stop button that either stops at the end of the loop (one press) or immediately (two presses)
-dl4 style single play
-reverse/half speed
-fx loop
-lp/hp filter per loop
-stereo
-not gargantuan

It's not much to ask for.

^^^
I'd hit that!