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hahahahaha I think for the most part we do here.

I really could have saved myself alot of headache and typing earlier by just posting this:

pedal

christianatl wrote:pedal

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The "liberal mainstream media" is a myth like the "free market" myth.
Neither one exists and both are nothing more than platitudes.

I challenge anyone here to find regular commentators, journalists, pundits who are informed, level-headed critics of capitalism, democracy and free enterprise; and presented right alongside the usual shills and talking head hosts who interrupt and influence *debate* by effectively saying "we're out of time, because our corporate sponsors have products to sell you, which is more important than making progress toward understanding real pressing issues"

Divide & conquer, propaganda works. It's easier to fool people than to convince them they're been fooled.

morange wrote:You're a bigot, Iommic Pope, you know that?

You're right.
I just read through that post again. I said some shit that was bigoted and ignorant and doesn't accurately depict how I feel on this topic at all.
I started rage typing.
That was stupid.
I apologise.
Thank you for showing me that I was dick for saying that.

I should have been more clear and articulate when laying that down.
I should have said that, in relation to this case, the business ethic employed was unbecoming of someone adopting a Christian morality, and that by extrapolating that to a myriad of other scenarios where Christians, among many other religious bodies, figureheads, organisations etc. have acted in a way that is contrary to their code of conduct and that behaviour of that manner is always open slather, not just a bandwagon.
I was less than eloquent in stating this.
Again, that was stupid.

In addition to this, when I said "I hate religion and all its followers", in addition to being just a poorly formed statement, I was again being too broad, and not specific to my actual system of hatredy.
I do hate all religions as organised systems.
And I do hate people that blindly follow them.
I hate people that adopt archaic belief systems and use them to then oppress, torture, harm, rape sell into slvery, murder, kill en masse, all others who don't roll over in their path.
I am aware that this is not most people.
I am aware that most people are able to draw a line between their personal faith and some of these archaic beliefs.
I know people that do.
I know Christians that have attended gay/lesbian reformist churches, that have left because of moral codes that aren't representative of reality (they knew gay people, they knew they didn't need reforming).
I've met smart people from all religions that were quite educated and talented, that did not feel the need to ram their theosophies down my throat.
I did not hate them on principal, just because they had a faith.
I find it very hard to seperate, though, that people who follow the fundamental tenants of any faith that are beneficial to our functioning as a species as gospel, have not at some point throughout their indoctrination also applied those that are relics of bygone ages, no longer relevant. The kind that cause people to picket soldiers funerals, block marriage equality laws and abduct nearly 300 school girls in Nigeria, to sell them into sex slavery and convert them at gun point to a system of faith as banal as the one they already had.
To me it seems that if people are going to perform hateful acts in the name of a god, then it would make a lot more sense to remove the god element in the equation. I wonder if it would lessen the incident rate if the threat of the "invisible deity in the sky who knows everything I'm thinking" factor was removed. Maybe.
Maybe not.
These are extreme examples, but at the core they share the same principles as the everyday prejudices we all encounter when dealing with people of different faiths.
For instance, I get the shits when people assume atheists are utterly without morality or decency.
I think we've reached the point as a species where we can drop the excuse of god/s, apply the principles that actually foster acts of humanity between us and leave the dumb hateful shit behind.

So, yeah, I'm jaded. Opinionated, and a self-righteous cunt, too.
I'm probably also bigoted, but only against bigots.
Maybe that makes me king bigot?
But I did learn never to rage type ever again. EVER.
Thank you.
I apologise once again for being a dumbass and not reading what I typed before I posted it.
Bigotry is not something I'm about, and I feel ashamed to be called that.
Again, proof-reading is king.

I stand by bashing cases of Christian hypocrisy as not being as simple as being a bandwagon to jump on. As is with any case of hypocrisy. Being Christian, or any religion wherein one claims to hold moral high ground over everyone else does not make one exempt from treating others differently or worse simply because one claims superiority over them in this way.

I'm also not revoking my stance on the formation of opinion being the sole domain of the religious. There are different people in the world. We all have an opinion on each other. Nobody holds dominion over which opinion is the "right" one.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:hahahahaha I think for the most part we do here.

I really could have saved myself alot of headache and typing earlier by just posting this:

I should've just said that from the start.
I've met Buddhists that were douchebags, athiests that were cunts, and all manner of painful person in between.
Because 95% of people are assholes, regardless of creed.
I just jump the hatred up a little more when people use religion to be cunts.

D.o.S. wrote:

morange wrote:You're a bigot, Iommic Pope, you know that?

Gotta give you this one -- people who live in South Carolina are usually pretty good at pointing out bigots.

Now comes the part where you offer Pope a high-ranking state government position, right?

Back on target: company sucks. Fuck 'em.

Governor Pope, King of the Bigots......
yeah, I could get used to that.

As far as the spiritual flag waving goes, there's an old proverb..."Heathens pray in public"
Some real food for thought there...

But just because someone's *religious* doesn't mean they're an honorable, decent human being.
A similar, yet inverse fallacy is the classic Reductio Ad Hitlerum.

On forums and public bulletin boards it's extra easy to dismiss strangers and unknown people who fit a rule/stereotype mold...especially one that's imagined...but meet a few individuals and you're bound to find exceptions that challenge your preconceptions.
It's important to remember that one does not disprove the other.
Duality is life, and life is full of foolish creatures who've been deluded into thinking they're top of the food chain, in control, and capable of understanding all things worth knowing......especially regarding themselves and each other.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

1. I want that print.
2. This thread turned out to be waaaaaay more interesting than I imagined it would. Cults, politics, religions, Barry Obeezy, Animal Farm. Holy fuck it has EVERYTHING!

Freekish Blues

The Ethics of Pedal

Well my opinion on this subject is ________________

Fuck, now I want a Nutella sandwich. Goodbye diet, hello sweet nuts of the gods!

Sweet Nuts was my nickname in college

I bet it was.

AngryGoldfish wrote:Fuck, now I want a Nutella sandwich. Goodbye diet, hello sweet nuts of the gods!

Nutella + Peanut Butter on Toast.

/end thread.