I looked him up... interesting.. he took over Robert Jordan's wheel of time... Hmm... no I don't want to know... I got fed up with wheel of time after book... 9... actually I blame Jordan for all the long winded never ending fantasy series which made me give up the the whole genre
i'll always be greatful to Robert Jordan and the Wheel Of Time for giving something Terry Goodkind something to steal and improve on. i loved the first 3 or 4 of the Sword Of Truth series. by around the 5th Terry Goodkind had caught up with how far the WoT book had gone, and i guess has no ideas himself, because it turned into awful writing, more author avatar preaching than actual story and jus getting textually dick-slapped with COMMUNISM BAD, OBJECTIVISM GOOD....
i don't know how good his grasp on objectivism is, but he has the understanding of Socialism of maybe an angry high schooler that can quote some popular Nietsche but never actually read any.
first three books, specially the first, were damn enjoyable though.
Eric! wrote:YOU'RE like having two pedals in one
with your...momentary fuck switch and all..
behndy wrote:i'll always be greatful to Robert Jordan and the Wheel Of Time for giving something Terry Goodkind something to steal and improve on. i loved the first 3 or 4 of the Sword Of Truth series. by around the 5th Terry Goodkind had caught up with how far the WoT book had gone, and i guess has no ideas himself, because it turned into awful writing, more author avatar preaching than actual story and jus getting textually dick-slapped with COMMUNISM BAD, OBJECTIVISM GOOD....
i don't know how good his grasp on objectivism is, but he has the understanding of Socialism of maybe an angry high schooler that can quote some popular Nietsche but never actually read any.
first three books, specially the first, were damn enjoyable though.
Oh yes. They where! All the way up to book 5 really then it went on and on and on and got more and more fragmented.. Same with Terry Goodkind, I loved the first few... and then... There was another that I started on... can't remember... something about a wall and evil creatures... and the royal children having to go all over the place.. and a hunchback and incest... I got to book three and was like enough! fuck it! fuck all of it and sold off all my books...
yeah. i never read much of the Wheel Of Time. it felt like it was for tweener boys that still had rape fantasies that were undefined and ambiguous from their lack of real world experience....... it felt like Terry Goodkind took (or blatantly STOLE) every good idea out of there and rewrote it for ADULTS that have rape fantasies. much more my speed.
then it turned to quarter-ass thought out moralizing rambles. fucking AWFUL.
....... and i stuck through 'till the end book. just 'cause it HAD to get better. NOPE.
fuck Terry Goodkind with the rigor mortis hard arm of Robert Jordan. 'till he has BABIES from it.
Eric! wrote:YOU'RE like having two pedals in one
with your...momentary fuck switch and all..
So true, so true! An really Jordan wasn't very original either.. Ever read David Eddings or Terry Brooks? I saw a lot similarities.. But then the whole group of peeps'n things on a "quest" to "save the wold" has been done to death... and if you aren't careful.. you end up copying those damn books about rings and short people with fuzzy feet..
yur. Genre Archetypes become archetypes 'cause they work, and if you're writing something that falls into an easily defined category, it's gonna have SOME predictable trappings. but Goodkind went so far as to just add an apostrephe to a device's name or a groups of characters after lifting it almost entirely whole cloth from Jordan.
never bothered me when he was making the ideas more readable, but it was glaringly obvious when he caught up and just showed how shit a writer he is.
disappointing.
'm still going through the Dragonriders of Pern series again and reading the newest Paul Beatty. White Boy Shuffle is one of my favorite books ever, Tuffy was really good, and Slumberland's good so far.
Eric! wrote:YOU'RE like having two pedals in one
with your...momentary fuck switch and all..
I dig Jordan's take on the WOT. Read the whole series 7-8 times, I think.* *I read fast. And WoT is outrageously crack-like in its ability to cause insomnia/fill the void that my brain needs.
So far I'm of the mind that Sanderson's missed a lot of the characterizations that made RJ's books such an addictive/time-consuming read.
But I attribute that to Jordan being a dirty old man from South Carolina and Sanderson being a relatively pure Morman. These things happen. Homeboy misses the boat on a handful of the characters, though.
I will say it's a real fucking trip reading any other straight up "elves and dragons and sorcery" type fantasy after a Wheel of Timing. It seems to go by way, way too fast.
Also, Jordan's way more into boobs than most other fantasy writers... with the exception of Donaldson, maybe.
I've said this for years, but if there was a drug that launched me into a Narnia/Randland/Middle Earth/Gormenghast type hallucination for what seemed to be a natural lifespan, I'd take that shit in a second.
Escapism my fuckin' pituitary gland, that would be incredible beyond words.
yeah. templates. The Guardians Of The Flame, at least the first 5 books before Karl was no longer the main character, is my favorite fantasy series evah. they stay within the template, sorta, but it's so how real people would deal when transported to a swords and sorcery type world/dimension.
annnnnnd.... does this Whoa I Know How To Use A SWORD drug guarantee that you're the star of the series? banging all the bitches and with contractual immunity from permanent harm? then GIMME.
i read ballz ass fast too. used to suck hard, but i don't get near as much time to read as i used to so it's sometimes nice to be able to kill a novel in one or two nights of insomnia.
ooo! breakfast time! CREPES BITCHES.
Eric! wrote:YOU'RE like having two pedals in one
with your...momentary fuck switch and all..
that long discussion of late 20th-century fantasy lit has made me realize that I should probably read more of the genre but I don't really know where to begin...should I just randomly pick something from the Fantasy section of Books-a-Million?
StudioShutIn wrote:that long discussion of late 20th-century fantasy lit has made me realize that I should probably read more of the genre but I don't really know where to begin...should I just randomly pick something from the Fantasy section of Books-a-Million?
Andre Norton Jack Vance David Eddings David Gemmell Marion Zimmer Bradley Dave Wolverton Orson Scott Card to get you started...
which made me give up the the whole genre 
But then the whole group of peeps'n things on a "quest" to "save the wold" has been done to death... and if you aren't careful.. you end up copying those damn books about rings and short people with fuzzy feet..
