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Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:28 am
by MrNovember
Well shit, I'm bored at work so I finally actually checked out the Matriarch demos. It does sound really, really good and would integrate with my setup a lot better than my Peak does. I wouldn't spend $2k on it, but I could maybe justify some kind of trade situation...
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:56 pm
by echorec
notes/updates:
viewtopic.php?f=279&t=60126&hilit=romferd
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwuYv2lnQ43/
Romferd v2 in production. Waiting on knobs for the rest of the batch
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:52 pm
by Willem
Muse FTW wrote:Y'all are smoking crack if you think the Matriarch is a Grandmother + $300 of upgrades.
The architecture essentially makes it Moog's version of the Korg Mono/Poly (mono/duo/quad paraphonic with a sequencer and an arp that can cycle through voices, each of which can have their own waveform/octave settings), with stereo filtering (2 peaks) and stereo analog delay built in. It's quite a different synth than the Grandmother, and even more different than the Sub37.
Obviously it'd be great if it was cheaper, but $2k isn't nuts for this IMO, especially considering the Pro 2 retails for $2k. Obviously both have different feature-sets, but in terms of architecture it's probably the closest synth you'll find on the market (unless you get a vintage Mono/Poly like I did, which can cost up to $2500 for one in good condition, freshly serviced). It has 3x as many patch points as the Grandmother FWIW.
Despite Moog's popularity, it's still a small company. They had 62 employees in 2015. Obviously it has grown since then, but I'd be surprised if the count was close to or over 100.
I'll happily pay the Moog tax tbh. Give me the Fatar keys because fuck a bad keyboard. Cutting costs on keyboards is lame considering the race to the bottom can't be beaten, Behringer will always win.
When the alternative is buying something from an unoriginal psychopath's manufacturing city with inhumane working conditions, the choice is simple for me. (With the exception of a Pro One, Jupiter 8, and/or Arp 2600 reissue, I'll probably buy that lol.)
The stereo analog delay with midi sync is at least $700 worth, it's like the martriaech has a Minifooger in it.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:06 pm
by MrNovember
Yeah, I'll eat my earlier words, the more I've thought about the Matriarch, the more I'm sold on it. I know I already mentioned this, but I'm actually somewhat seriously considering selling my Peak to fund one.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:35 pm
by Muse FTW
I ordered one.
As a tip, I ordered through Guitar Center; I got a 20% off coupon (in an email) on a single purchase which excluded Moog, but in the live chat I was still able to get the discount applied.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:11 pm
by Ugly Nora
Nice. I'd probably buy one if I could sell my Sub37 and Minitaur. That would get me a good chunk of the way there.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:20 pm
by greyscales
Yeah, I'm considering moving some stuff to get a Matriarch later this year. Even some equipment I hadn't considered selling before. But I love the looks of the feature set right now.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 am
by 01010111
After fiddling around on modulargrid I can understand the price a bit better. The only thing I couldn’t justify with buying something like the Matriarch. If you absolutely want all those features, it’s a no brainer. But for $2k you can make a pretty solid modular system, and I don’t think I’d build a Matriarch if I was putting together a modular system.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:08 am
by MrNovember
01010111 wrote:After fiddling around on modulargrid I can understand the price a bit better. The only thing I couldn’t justify with buying something like the Matriarch. If you absolutely want all those features, it’s a no brainer. But for $2k you can make a pretty solid modular system, and I don’t think I’d build a Matriarch if I was putting together a modular system.
Having built up a fairly large modular system and then downsizing it to the bare minimum, I agree that building something like the Matriarch in the modular world doesn't really make sense. There's just so many amazing subtractive synth options in the non-modular world, that it is kind of a waste of money to build a simple subtractive synth in modules. I didn't learn this until I picked up a Sub 37 and realized that it can do the same things as most of my rack and it can do them a lot better. Modular is really good for focusing on weird sound design options that aren't available in a standard subtractive synth.
The Grandmother and Matriarch have been interesting me because they are really good subtractive synths, but there's so many possibilities to interact with my modular setup, which at this point does not have a normal VCO, envelope, filter, etc.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:31 am
by Ugly Nora
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:28 am
by Ugly Nora
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMDc9oCtsI4[/youtube]
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:03 pm
by Dowi
The Rever has never tickled my GAS, but surely those fluo colors are taaaaaasty..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRJQOCCXK5Y[/youtube]
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:25 pm
by Dungus
Dowi wrote:The Rever has never tickled my GAS, but surely those fluo colors are taaaaaasty..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRJQOCCXK5Y[/youtube]
I had to send mine back cos it got damaged in the post, then had to spend the refunded money on something else and now im like gaaaahhh i want the silly colourses
If you get me one, i will swap you a masf possessed
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:30 pm
by echorec
I actually wanted to see the Rêver in tennis ball green or cotton candy bubble gum, so I'm quite pleased with these bright variations. I didn't understand the grey launch. With Rêver being French for
dream, who wants grey dreams? Seemed rather uninspiring.
Re: 2019 happenings (Superbooth leaks p.68)
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:29 pm
by echorec