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Inconuucl wrote:Perhaps plugging the pedal on while holding the softswitch?
I like that, except that it would make it hard to change that setting on the fly. I'm sure you could work around it (e.g., if transcendence is on and you want to destroy a buffer switching between modes 2-3, you could switch to mode 1 and turn the feedback down until the buffer is essentially empty, and then go to mode 2), but it'd be nice to be able to access it directly.
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Could be as simple as holding the foot switch down as you change modes.
Change modes without footswitch = Clear Buffer
Change modes wish footswitch down = Hold the buffer.
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Maybe changing modes while pressing soft switch... or...

maybe by pressing both soft and hard switches at the same time?

I like the idea of being able to switch between the transcendence mode and quotidian mode on the fly.
Seems like it would allow for more flexibility of approach between different users or between different
situations for the same user.
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Seance wrote:
maybe by pressing both soft and hard switches at the same time?

I like the idea of being able to switch between the transcendence mode and quotidian mode on the fly.
Seems like it would allow for more flexibility of approach between different users or between different
situations for the same user.
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unfortunately the hard switch is hard wired for true bypass. so you would have to hit the hard twice since you would bypass the effect. it's a good call though otherwise.

i think the soft switch down when toggling modes is probably the best. If you think about it you only care about transcendence at the moment of switching modes. But at teh same time it is a pain to have to always remember to do so so maybe holding down soft while switching toggles a global transcendence setting. So you only have to remember to hold the soft when you are toggling whether or not the global setting is active. Too complex?
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What if in mode 1 each knob had a secondary function when the soft switch was held? One would be the lpf you mentioned, one would be global trancendance, and later you could add more! Haha. I guess the main idea is to get more O_o
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multi_s wrote:unfortunately the hard switch is hard wired for true bypass. so you would have to hit the hard twice since you would bypass the effect. it's a good call though otherwise.

i think the soft switch down when toggling modes is probably the best. If you think about it you only care about transcendence at the moment of switching modes. But at teh same time it is a pain to have to always remember to do so so maybe holding down soft while switching toggles a global transcendence setting. So you only have to remember to hold the soft when you are toggling whether or not the global setting is active. Too complex?
Soft switch down when toggling modes for a global transcendence setting switch makes sense to me.
I'd think you'd either want it to transcend or not? I want transcendence all the time!
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elcapistan wrote:
UglyCasanova wrote:
elcapistan wrote:The wait has started to feel pretty long. But man, seeing that picture of all the ct5s in a box made it so much better. Sorry about the delays Scott. I hope everything arrives on the new new scheduled date. I'm once again super excited. As if my excitement hasn't been reignited just about every day haha
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In terms of whether to make it a global or one-time switch, I can see people having preferences both ways. Personally, I would lean towards a one-time switch. For me it seems simpler since I expect to be switching back and forth a bit (between normal/transcendence). If it's global, there is not going to be any indicator to show which mode it is in ... which probably isn't an issue most of the time (especially for those that just plan to set it once and leave it). But I can see being in the middle of a set, having flipped back and forth, and then coming back a while later and not being certain about which mode it's in. If it's a one-time switch you always know what is going to happen. But again, I can see benefits/preferences either way.

Out of curiosity, since mode 2 is a 4s loop and mode 3 is 8 seconds, what will happen when you carry over a 4s loop into mode 3? Will it just be a 4s loop in mode 3, even if you overdub more than 4 seconds? (I.e., it will treat it like you recorded a 4s loop and wrap the overdub around the 4s limit).

Likewise, if you carry over a >4 second loop from mode 3 into mode 2, will it just chop it off at the 4s mark?

Just curious how it will handle those situations :)
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zoooombiex wrote:In terms of whether to make it a global or one-time switch, I can see people having preferences both ways. Personally, I would lean towards a one-time switch. For me it seems simpler since I expect to be switching back and forth a bit (between normal/transcendence). If it's global, there is not going to be any indicator to show which mode it is in ... which probably isn't an issue most of the time (especially for those that just plan to set it once and leave it). But I can see being in the middle of a set, having flipped back and forth, and then coming back a while later and not being certain about which mode it's in. If it's a one-time switch you always know what is going to happen. But again, I can see benefits/preferences either way.

Out of curiosity, since mode 2 is a 4s loop and mode 3 is 8 seconds, what will happen when you carry over a 4s loop into mode 3? Will it just be a 4s loop in mode 3, even if you overdub more than 4 seconds? (I.e., it will treat it like you recorded a 4s loop and wrap the overdub around the 4s limit).

Likewise, if you carry over a >4 second loop from mode 3 into mode 2, will it just chop it off at the 4s mark?

Just curious how it will handle those situations :)
Good question. Right now the way it is is say you are in mode 1 or mode 3 and use more than 4s of the buffer. When you transcend to mode 2, it stays the length you were using, but if you try to grab another loop in mode 2 you will have only 8 - the transcended sample length, so possibly zero, but the transcended sample can be up to 8 seconds across modes.

There will be some led indicator of transcendence being active. The new models have tri color leds but even the old models can have a third color by combining blue and red or by having it blink/change color etc.
elcapistan wrote:What if in mode 1 each knob had a secondary function when the soft switch was held? One would be the lpf you mentioned, one would be global trancendance, and later you could add more! Haha. I guess the main idea is to get more O_o
The only issue with this is is that it limits the changes to having to happen in mode 1. This is how rev h/i boards need to change the quantizations (no q switch) and in general people are not stoked.

In the end we can change the firmware if people hate it but just trying to get a feeler before shipping them out.
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multi_s wrote:So you only have to remember to hold the soft when you are toggling whether or not the global setting is active. Too complex?
that's ok I get it.
the akai e2 has 2 soft switches and that's why it's works there.
I like this one though.
now if we just had an external port for changing modes...
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Damn I kinda wanna flip my first run for one of the new ones
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