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Mudfuzz wrote:that I believe is called deep rooted denial… also my dislike of SP is most likely unending..casecandy wrote: seducing him against his will
Charmless wrote:https://www.facebook.com/PTSTD/videos/1427861764208272/?pnref=story
I'm sure her baiting and spitting all over a legal contract done in mercy and good will was just her trying to show camaraderie, obviously. And don't get me started on the gay scat porn she spammed that was (thankfully) deleted before she was banned again. Regardless of what she thinks of the console, the fact that she's not owning up to her debt and instead goes on living from donor to donor with pride of not having to work a day job leaves me with the belief that she doesn't give a flying fuck about those that support her. Look, I don't interact with Devi, but anyone that has managed to get themselves kicked out of every community they have been in the past 10+ years is either doing it on purpose or completely unable to tame their actions.tabbycat wrote:give the girl a break.
Since you're so keen to act as apologist for a dubious aggressor, maybe you should apply for a job as publicist and PR director to DE.tabbycat wrote:this thread should be deleted. wiped asap. and the article someone wrote that sensationalises it. get rid. there’s absolutely no dignity in keeping it alive, so bury it so everyone involved can move on.
devi plays the tough but don’t assume that’s because that’s all she wants to be. if you play on anyone’s insecurities and relentlessly force them onto the defensive then obviously you are going to get what you got. devi wears her temperament on her sleeve. that’s part of her charm, take it or leave it. but that also makes her easy prey for all those who want to press her buttons to do so. whether they should or not is a matter for reflection for all those who got involved.
maybe she just wanted to hang with the gang again? I don’t think she came here looking for a fight. i would say it’s not unreasonable to assume that her reason for starting that thread was that she was trying to find a way to wipe the slate clean and start again.
she must miss the support and camaraderie she once had here. badly. even if she has to take the blame for fucking things up. without a doubt she knows she fucked up big time and must regret a lot of the things she said and did in her past, but if you are only going to let her come back here on the condition that she permanently wears an orange guantanamo coverall with ‘im sorry’ written across the front, it’s never going to happen and you shouldn’t want it to happen. compassion doesn’t demand humiliation. i think you underestimate her humanity if you assume she is incapable of feeling sorry, even if she can’t handle the humiliation of expressing it at the moment. give the girl her dignity and let her move on.
obviously she didn’t fuck the console thing up intentionally just to piss people off. i would say it’s a pretty safe bet that she remains a thousand times more upset about it not turning out as intended than everyone who has ever beaten her up about it since combined. what she thought would be her crowning achievement turning to bankrupting shit. it must burn her up 24/7. so don’t rub it in. gloat over her failures in private if that’s how you like to get off, but doing it in public makes you look the total asshole, not her.
ok, so it appears some members here aren’t ready to accept her back, or misinterpreted her return as her coming back looking for a rumble. you can’t be surprised at the way she responded when cornered. which she was. but what’s said is said and the harm that has been done to both sides has been done. raking over the embers will just raise more sparks, so let ashes be ashes.
this whole thread is ugly and not at all a credit to ilf, as some people have claimed. dignity is about more than just not using certain words, it's about maintaining a certain spirit. and on that level this whole thread is just a head on a stick attracting flies. grotesque.
maybe at a later date, when devi is feeling more robust, and certain members here are more prepared to accommodate her, she will come back and try again. the continuing existence of this thread gets in the way of that. it's pillory and ilf should be above that. pillory is the medieval sport of small minds.
clearly she still wants to be around here. even if she hasn’t worked out a way to express that yet in a way that squares the circle with who she is and what ilf is. she was trying. so kill the thread to leave the door open for her when she's ready. call it compassion.
give the girl a break.
rfurtkamp wrote:The only transparent thing I own is a set of drinking glasses.
tabbycat wrote:this thread should be deleted. wiped asap. and the article someone wrote that sensationalises it. get rid. there’s absolutely no dignity in keeping it alive, so bury it so everyone involved can move on.
rfurtkamp wrote:The only transparent thing I own is a set of drinking glasses.
The console was a failure. To my knowledge, no one has been faulting her on what work was done on it as it was Infanem actually making it and Devi paying Infanem to actually make the thing work. We all know Devi isn't good with high-concept/complex/original circuits. And it has come to light that Devi isn't good at finances either. I took some time off work to try to make a living off making music. I depleted my savings. I had no money. I assessed the situation- it wasn't working out and I needed money to survive. I sold a bunch of stuff; I regret a lot of the sales. I am now employed and can make ends meet. It sucks, but that's what happens when a person's playtime/daydream/hobby can't sustain their living expenses. It set me back years. I will try again when I am able.tabbycat wrote: what she thought would be her crowning achievement turning to bankrupting shit. it must burn her up 24/7. so don’t rub it in.
Devi is an incendiary person. She also knows what she's doing. If it were just ashes, there wouldn't be a problem. Devi Ever is fucking Centralia. She used to make that work for her, but in her situation, having done wrong by so many for so long it doesn't work in her favor anymore. I'm ready to accept Devi. The stipulation is she has to do right by the backers. I am one of them. Yes, I am biased. I have also been very, very, very patient. I was horrified when I heard about her game career getting wrecked by GamerGate shitheels- "how terrible! Don't they know who she is?" was my line of thinking. Devi introduced me to that thing that was going on. As a non-gamer it wasn't on my radar. Fact remains, Devi isn't ash or ember. She's fire. And she burns bridges. I don't think I can defend her behavior of her "backed into a corner" when she comes here and points everyone to her Patreon.tabbycat wrote:ok, so it appears some members here aren’t ready to accept her back, or misinterpreted her return as her coming back looking for a rumble. you can’t be surprised at the way she responded when cornered. which she was. but what’s said is said and the harm that has been done to both sides has been done. raking over the embers will just raise more sparks, so let ashes be ashes.
Again. I am prepared to welcome Devi. I miss the Devi FX board of what effect is what, what does it sound like, what would be best for this thing. But ILF is that on a grander scale. Again, for me to not be bitter, I need to be taken care of. I won't try to sabotage her new brand, I won't reveal her new e-mail or facebook to her enemies, but I will hold my bias. I have been wronged. Others should know what they're getting into when they make dealings with her to weigh the risk and benefit.tabbycat wrote:maybe at a later date, when devi is feeling more robust, and certain members here are more prepared to accommodate her, she will come back and try again.
Even my compassion has been betrayed. She has a tendency to add insult to insult to insult to injury. I think many of her backers wouldn't be so against Devi if she hadn't kept messing around. I'm inclined to believe people. I'm naive and an idiot. I've lived off of friends. I know what its like when no one believes you. Been there. If she wants to make donations- fine. Did it have to be a lump sum? Did it have to be plastered on the internet? Did she have to berate and belittle people asking for an explanation? I want to believe a person when they say they're trying. I've made dumb mistakes in the heat of the moment, I get it. There is a history of abuse with Devi. She tends to be the instigator.tabbycat wrote:clearly she still wants to be around here. even if she hasn’t worked out a way to express that yet in a way that squares the circle with who she is and what ilf is. she was trying. so kill the thread to leave the door open for her when she's ready. call it compassion.
...and when can I get a break?tabbycat wrote:give the girl a break.
