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Ahhh sweet, i had hoped it was something like that :D
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Finally got something to update, Got clamps, looots of clamps, and measured up the neck. Surprisingly, the neck is only a tiny amount off the scale length when shunted right in, and is angled perfectly. However, the fretboard sits just a little too high above the body, so i gotta fix that

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so ill probably take off some wood from the bottom, and then also sand the body at the neck join, so the two sit nicely in line with one another. Good thing i still have a decent amount of primer left :P
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Why do you think the neck is sitting too high....? Did you do a "dry" mock up with the bridge in place and with strings on...?
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hmmmm no i didnt, but the neck i feel is too high because the fretboard, when its in contact with the body, isnt flush at the bottom. If that makes sense... Basically im trying to have it sit the same way it does on a Gibson Explorer. If im going about this the wrong way id love to hear how i should :)
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I wouldn't worry about how it "looks". The fretboard isn't always flush with the top of the body. If you set the neck into the pocket further than it is supposed to, you will mess up the action big time. I'd recommend putting the neck in place and get a wood clamp to hold it in place--don't glue it yet (assuming it's a set neck, not bolt on). Install the tuners, bridge and tail pice. Then install as many strings as you can--the clamp will prevent you from having all six strings on. Tune it up and get the intonation at least close. Now take a look at the action. How does it look and feel...?? Is the bridge sitting really high...?? This "dry" assembly should tell you a lot about what needs or doesn't need to be done....!!
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Ahhhhhhh thank you! thats a brilliant idea. I shall do that at the soonest oppurtunity then :)
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Not a major update, no pictures, but having taken Decibills sound advice (haaaa) ive been sticking the hardware on, and daaaang even with just the tuners half on, it looks so gooood. Glad i got the grover mini-Rotomatics, they look so good.

Ill get pictures up for the dry assembly once i get in that Gotoh tunomatic i bought on impulse. :joy:
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Sweet. It's always nice to see things start to come together. It is a good motivation boost...!
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It is suchhh a good motivational boost... Especially lining up all the parts in a loose look at what itll look like at the end and seeing this

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looks so good ;-; gotta get that gotoh bridge asap and then make sure everything fits properly. im almost certain that the neck heel is a few millimeters too long, im pretty sure the scale length was over by a couple.... Having just measure there, its off by about 3 millimetres rigt now, but ill remeasure when i have the thing dry clamped and strung
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Don't be thrown off if the scale length isn't spot on in terms of a precise measurement from the nut to the bridge. It also depends on which saddle you are measuring to. Usually measure using the B and A saddles The important thing is that it intonates properly when you do the dry mock up.
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yeah, i am not gonna do anything to change the neck till ive done the dry fit. But thanks for that, i thought it had to be suuuper precise :P
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Finally got the replacement bridge (cause i totally didnt fuck up the stock one) and started the dry fit whooh! Everything is pretty decent, except the 9th Fret has popped out :picard:

any ideas on fixes?

And here is a picture of my somewhat half-arsed clamping. camera cant get a good picture of the popped fret


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did it take any wood with it? You want to make sure that the curvature of the fret wire is the same or slightly more than the radius of the fretboard. I would CA glue the sides of the slot it sits in to build up wood there, being careful not to fill the channel, maybe use a razor blade or something to ensure the glue only gets on the side, not the bottom, and then tap it back into place once the ca has set. If you can rig up a press with some spare wood and a couple of clamps, that should work.
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hmm nah, i actually think that the fret was never put in properly at its birthplace. So the wood is completly intact, i just have a really buzzy fret. So just clamp it back down and glue?

What is CA glue by the way? :P
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Cyanoacrylate (super glue) I would not glue it in place in case you want to replace down the road. tension should do the job. which is why I was recomending to beef up the side walls a bit before pressing it back in place.
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