The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[Ancient Astronaught]

yea Soldano style pcb DA120s would make me a happy man.

As well as a rack ton of future customers.

[skullservant]

Still need to crank the Spaldo. Ugh

[new05002]

Part of me says that is not a bad idea but unless I went full pcb it would still be a lot of work. I would only make the power supply and main board easier.

but full PCB....

[AngryGoldfish]

Here's the Verellen twins guts:

45w Shawnee:


Spaldo:

jk

yea Soldano style pcb DA120s would make me a happy man.

Maybe I should make PCB DA120s to satisfy all your needs

As much as this idea is kinda anti-Dunwich-mentality if you ever wanted to turn it into a serious business this would probably be your bread and butter. If Orange can sell their rip offs for $2500 and you could build better ones and sell them for $1500 you could put a major hurt on them. I would also be the first in-line to become an employee

Matamp taught me this years when I visited the factory. The lead designer was showing me the workshop and stuff, and I asked about the wiring. He demonstrated some of it, and I said is that PTP. He quite firmly replied no and explained how frustrating it is to see 'bootweek' builders claming PTP when it's either turret board, eyelet board or something else. He showed me an example of a 'true' point-to-point' amp and then explained the differences.

There are only a few major builders using strict PTP wiring. One of the reasons why Matchless and Carr are so expensive is because they employ that technique a lot. I think Carr also operate using other techniques, but Matchless almost entirely use it. I think Bad Cat used to build with PTP wiring as well, I can't remember. I don't think they do any more, if they did. Either way, I don't think it makes much of a difference

Verellen does PtP on full custom builds as well, the 45w Class A amp I sold to skully is PtP (if I remember the pis correctly) and his Spaldo might be as well. If its a low parts count build (like those two amps that only have Vol / tone controls) I can see PtP being worth it, but IMO it makes the guts look like a rats nest pretty much no matter what you do. Nick's turret builds look a thousand times cleaner and easier to work on than ANY PtP build I've seen.

Yeah, even Carr amps are a bit of a mess to look at—not that tidiness is the most important thing.



But then again, PTP can be incredibly tidy (not a guitar amp):

[new05002]

Looks incredible but what a tech nightmare

[doctorpoopenstein420]

I'm know it's been covered, but any solid reverb suggestions? People are always talkin about the Ghost Echo, but just curious about anything else y'all are using.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Part of me says that is not a bad idea but unless I went full pcb it would still be a lot of work. I would only make the power supply and main board easier.

but full PCB....

Yes but you could make a modular system where you can pick the preamp section, the PI section and the power amp section you want. I know its almost unfathomable to go full PCB but if you were trying to break into a national market it would be the easiest way to do it.

Yeah, even Carr amps are a bit of a mess to look at—not that tidiness is the most important thing.



But then again, PTP can be incredibly tidy (not a guitar amp):

Like nick said that does look like a pain to work on, but thats definitely not the worst looking PtP I've seen. The inside of some of the Model T's i've seen are treacherous.

And damn that second amp looks insane. I'm guessing its pro audio and probably a 5 or 6 figure price tag.

[new05002]

PCB mount pots and sockets are like blasphemy thats all

but a pcb main board would cut down some time for sure

[Ancient Astronaught]

PCB mount pots and sockets are like blasphemy thats all

but a pcb main board would cut down some time for sure

You could design and market pot harness that just slide on to the pot and are three wires then have a socket on the other end to plug it into. Then they are not PCB mounted and are actually less susceptible to shock and movement.

I do gotta agree that tube sockets that are pcb mounted would be an absolute nightmare, as they always are. But then again maybe you could make unique harnesses for them as well.

[celticelk]

I'm know it's been covered, but any solid reverb suggestions? People are always talkin about the Ghost Echo, but just curious about anything else y'all are using.

How much reverb do you want? I love my Eventide Space, but if you're not a full-on ambience freak it might be a bit much (complexity, size, and price-wise). I generally hear good things about the Supernatural, the Supermoon, and the HoF.

[AngryGoldfish]

So the most 'Doom' thing happened to me just now. I was making dinner and had the music on my PC up full in the other room. I was listening to Kowloon Walled City. But suddenly I heard a crash from in the other room. Upon inspection I realised that the vibrations of the music had pushed my mouse of the desk, a mouse I absolutely love and have had for years. It is now broken. Doom broke my favourite mouse.

I'm know it's been covered, but any solid reverb suggestions? People are always talkin about the Ghost Echo, but just curious about anything else y'all are using.

Subdecay Spring Theory, Malekko Spring Chicken, Red Panda Context, Boss RV-3, Eventide Space/H9, Strymon Flint or BigSky, Blackout Effectors Cadavernous, Digitech RV-7, Dr. Scientist Mini-Reverberator, EQD Dispatch Master, EHX Holy Grail, Mr. Black Eterna/Supermoon/Deluxe Plus, TC Electronic Hall of Fame, all reverbs I would use/trust/am using.

What kind of sound do you want?

[new05002]

im such a grump but yea a pcb board for the components would make life a bunch easier. No more fabbing the turret board ect

[doctorpoopenstein420]

I'm know it's been covered, but any solid reverb suggestions? People are always talkin about the Ghost Echo, but just curious about anything else y'all are using.

How much reverb do you want? I love my Eventide Space, but if you're not a full-on ambience freak it might be a bit much (complexity, size, and price-wise). I generally hear good things about the Supernatural, the Supermoon, and the HoF.

I suppose something fairly simple, something subtle that i could use always on, but the capability for real fucking spacey ambient shit every now and then would be lovely. Definitely looking for something relatively inexpensive.

[pelliott]

Might have a bead on an 80s Butcher

[Ancient Astronaught]

I'm know it's been covered, but any solid reverb suggestions? People are always talkin about the Ghost Echo, but just curious about anything else y'all are using.

How much reverb do you want? I love my Eventide Space, but if you're not a full-on ambience freak it might be a bit much (complexity, size, and price-wise). I generally hear good things about the Supernatural, the Supermoon, and the HoF.

I suppose something fairly simple, something subtle that i could use always on, but the capability for real fucking spacey ambient shit every now and then would be lovely. Definitely looking for something relatively inexpensive.

Hall of Fame, you have multiple reverbs and a toneprint you could make into either one of those verbs if one of the preset types is incapable of doing it.