The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[Ancient Astronaught]

I had planned on doing some demos of stacking the pedals in different orders/combinations for the tourbox, but I just ran out of time. Between doing one guitar and two bass demos for every pedal in a week, woof!

Dude the amount of work you put into it was above and beyond the call of duty.

[Kacey Y]

I had planned on doing some demos of stacking the pedals in different orders/combinations for the tourbox, but I just ran out of time. Between doing one guitar and two bass demos for every pedal in a week, woof!

Dude the amount of work you put into it was above and beyond the call of duty.

Thanks, that's how I know I'm CRAZY. I was probably doing 4 other things that week, on top of working full time and being a great husband that's married to a pregnant woman. I did it in 1-2 hour chunks, on and off throughout the week, between the time I got home and my wife got home from work. I could have recorded it and uploaded it all in one day, if I had that much free time in a row any day of the week.

[Pizza]

Went to natural history museum in london today

I saw so many dinosaurs, I saw mammoths, mastodons, giant sloths and fuckin Moby Dick

Jizzed my scientific pants

That's awesome, dude. I got my science on this past weekend at the gem and mineral show here in town.

Btw has anyone tried a BAT Black Sheep yet?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCkIkRsgzhg[/youtube]

Also, anyone know what mods are done to his valve jr? Anyone else have a modded epi jr?

[conky]

Skip, I just posted a link to gut shots of my amp in the Electric vs Matamp thread. I'm curious if they (our amps) use the same boards. Mine has a few empty slots on it and extra holes in the chassis that the face and back plates cover up.

[AngryGoldfish]

offload 2203 for another superbass?

NOOOOO!!!

Last nights show ruled. First one with a new drummer and he nailed it. We never sounded so good. Matamp and aor ruled. Got tons of compliments on the sound. Dammit I'm ready to play again. I hope someone took video or pics.

Nice one, mate. Awesome to see you so pumped.

The only drummers I know play standard 4/4 beats in various tempos. Never had a good or interesting drummer to play with ever. So uninspiring and bland and amatuer sounding

Well, in all fairness, playing outside of 4/4 is a lot harder on drums than it is on guitar. It really doesn't make any difference when you play 7/8 on guitar, but 7/8 on drums takes months of practising to get the hang of, and that's just one odd timing. There are much, much harder ones like 15/16 that only a few drummers on the planet can comfortably play. I know how frustrating it is to be stuck within 4/4 because the drummer, despite being good, just doesn't want to veer outside that pocket. Just remember that it's not because they don't want to or haven't practised enough, it's because it's like trying to demand your guitarist to sweep pick; it's incredibly difficult.

Here's the thing I realized by accident about techniques like that. They are not hard. We tend to overthink things and make them seem more difficult than they need to be. I used to think that shit was well beyond me until my old drummer ( who also played guit) layed this on me after a jam -
"I hate you John."
what? why?
"you make that sweep picking stuff look so easy."
I wasn't sweep picking.
"Yeah you were, fuck you, I wish I could do that."
I wasn't, here's what I was playing. (Play a chord slowly with some hammer on stuff added)
"Yeah asshole, that's what I'm talking about."
(Dawns on me that what I was playing would be considered sweep picking) dude it's just a chord with some extra shit.
"Fuck you man, I could never play that."

The thing is, he could. dude knows more chords than I do, just would get hung up on thinking it was harder than it is. if you can make each note of a chord stand out by lifting your fingers off after you play it, you are 90% there. just add some more notes into the thing and BAM! PUNCH EM IN THE FACE! Sweep.

I've spent five years learning how to sweep pick cleanly, musically and uniquely and I'm still nowhere near where I want to be, and I'd consider myself a quick learner and a talented musician. My fingers lack the speed that some would have, but I'm a better guitarist than most. I only spent a year trying to master off-beat drumming, but I barely made any progress. I don't know how you managed to accidentally sweep pick, but kudos.

I love rwake, never heard the term post sludge before though, more bands like this?

Hey T-rey, several pages back I saw that you have a zap machine on your board. I just ordered one from Prymaxe today, what can I expect?

Post Sludge is just Post-Metal with elements of Sludge, which is just Post-Metal.

Genre-Nazi Hat On:

You're wrong. Buzzov*en, Crowbar, EyehateGod, Sourvein, etc., don't sound anything like Cult Of Luna, Pelican, Neurosis, Isis etc. outside of shared instrumentation. So, yeah, loud guitars. They both have loud guitars.

*dons genre-Nazi hat*

It's on!



Isn't EyehateGod and Crowbar just plain Sludge? I mean, the word 'post' imposes 'after', but Crowbar was one of the pioneering bands to develop that sludgy sound that Neurosis and ISIS fed off.

Sooooooo NPD on Saturday: (Cthulhu Fuzz)




AND NAD on SUNDAY!!!!!!

You dun slayed me, son!

For Fans Of Mastodon:
http://livver.bandcamp.com/

So these dudes opened up for Whores & Fight Amp at O'Briens, and unfortunately, I missed their set 'cause I was running late. But! After the show ended Jfrey and I were bullshitting around and ended up talking to some of these dudes -- who hooked us up with some free vinyl because we knew who Bob Weston was, as he mastered it (if that isn't the most ILF-y thing ever).

ANYWAY. Album is pretty tasty. Reminds me of Relapse Era Mastodon. Shorter songs.

Nice, will have a listen. Another 'early Mastodon' sound that I really love is Demon Horde by These Mountains are Ghosts. The guitarist used to post in the HCFX Doom Room a few years ago. I don't think he migrated like the rest of us.

[samzadgan]

Brought this back tonight and sat it on my cab…plugged it in…sooooo nice!

a lot of warm clean tones and just a touch of gain gives me my perfect clean tone.



Skip…that Matamp looks the biz…how does it sound with your pedals? I'm expecting it would exceed expectations??

[AngryGoldfish]

Congrats, mate! HNAD!

[D.o.S.]

*dons genre-Nazi hat*

It's on!



Isn't EyehateGod and Crowbar just plain Sludge? I mean, the word 'post' imposes 'after', but Crowbar was one of the pioneering bands to develop that sludgy sound that Neurosis and ISIS fed off.

I see you're using an old style, I wondered where you'd learned it from
You know very well, it's yours too.

Right. Maybe I misread. Sludge=/= post-metal. The guitar tones are pretty similar, but the aesthetic behind a band like Crowbar and a band like Neurosis is very different. Generally speaking, Crowbar, EHG, etc. and the rest of the NOLA bands are what I consider sludge -- while some of the Bay Area bands like Neurosis seem to be more tied in to crust and hardcore bands like Amebix. Both genres are basically playing what is essentially slowed down Hardcore, but the southern influences and humid abrasiveness that most 'real' sludge has seem to be a uniquely Southern thing. On the flip side, bands like Isis and Neurosis are much 'colder' sounding. (You could do a whole dissectional on Loud and Slow Music by region over the last 30 years, and I think it would be really illuminating, at least as far as the US continent is concerned)

The other thing is that, chronologically speaking, Neurosis are actually older than "sludge" as a genre, which takes most of its cues from Melvins, Flipper, and the slow-and-low Pacific Northwest and My War era Black Flag. Neurosis have been together since like '85, so I'm not sure it's fair to them to suggest that they fed off the southern scene when they were already pretty heavily into Amebix and other crust-y things before any of those southern bands really got going.

Anyway, post-sludge is just an offhand way for me to say Rwake sound like this but write songs like Isis. I don't think it's a real genre at all

For Fans Of Mastodon:
http://livver.bandcamp.com/

So these dudes opened up for Whores & Fight Amp at O'Briens, and unfortunately, I missed their set 'cause I was running late. But! After the show ended Jfrey and I were bullshitting around and ended up talking to some of these dudes -- who hooked us up with some free vinyl because we knew who Bob Weston was, as he mastered it (if that isn't the most ILF-y thing ever).

ANYWAY. Album is pretty tasty. Reminds me of Relapse Era Mastodon. Shorter songs.

Nice, will have a listen. Another 'early Mastodon' sound that I really love is Demon Horde by These Mountains are Ghosts. The guitarist used to post in the HCFX Doom Room a few years ago. I don't think he migrated like the rest of us.[/quote]

Gonna check that out soooooooon.

[t-rey]

Touche. I need to ask my local homebrew shop about it. I would love to have a batch of mead and a good stout ready to drink in the fall/winter. If it just needs to condition in the bottles forever, then that's cool - I was afraid it needed to sit in primary/secondary fermentation containers for months, which means that I couldn't brew because my cheap ass can't justify having multiple instances of homebrew equipment just for one thing.

It needs to sit in primary for quite a while too - Ken helped my wife set up a batch last year in anticipation of her 40th, and I think it was in primary for two or three months. It might depend on the recipe, though, so don't take my word for it. Beers turn around in primary in a week or two, right? Mead is a wine, or at least the meads I've had were wines, so different rules apply.

Yeah, I generally let my ales sit in primary for about a week, then about two weeks in secondary. The meads I have liked the most recently have been hopped and sparkling, I doubt that changes the fact that it's a wine, so I may just have to buy an additional primary fermenter to let it sit the appropriate amount of time and still be able to brew when time allows.

Whores tonight. So stoked.

Somehow, I've not managed to try mead. I think I need to fix that at some point.

Rad, hope you enjoyed the show.

Mead basically turns you into a Viking. So it's about the doomiest thing you can drink.

Sooooooo NPD on Saturday: (Cthulhu Fuzz)



AND NAD on SUNDAY!!!!!!

So many rad new amps in the Doom Room.

The BAT Black Sheep sounds awesome.

[LOCOPELAND]

Picked up a Black Forest in trade Saturday. Haven't even gotten to try it out yet, but I'm looking forward to see how it fairs with the rest of the board.

[D.o.S.]

What's the Black Sheep taste like?

[Iommic Pope]

Nick Cannon fans.

[D.o.S.]

[Holy Schnikes]

Got my V2 (used to be SpaceFlunky's) back from my tech today, so excited! He went through it methodically reflowing solder, changing caps, adding new toggles, installing new KT88s, adjusting bias, fixing the reverb jack, adding new (vintage correct) pilot lights, updating 3-prong plug, disconnecting polarity "death cap", and so on and so on. Nothing major but it needed a check up and it's 100% ready for the long haul now.

A good friend of mine retolexed the headshell and replaced all hardware and grill cloth. Then a local screen printer redid the control panel for me since most of the labeling worn off years ago and had since been replaced by marker scrawls. Couldn't find a good pic or pdf file anywhere of that V2 control plate graphic so he used my buddy's V4 as an example and created one from scratch using some graphic design program. Turned out super nice!

Here's a blurry ass photo of the before...



And after...

[spawnofthesith]

Holy fuck balls. I just finished listening to the new Conan album. I don't know if my body will be able to handle that heaviness long term