The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[t-rey]

Thanks.

Ok the DT and the Ritual compare in that both can sound huge. The Ritual has more sludge in it, though, and is closer to probably the Dream Crusher running at 11. It cleans up to a funky, trashy overdrive sound when you roll back the volume and doesn't have the variation in textures that you get with the DT. I like it best when I push the DLS with it. Just a big, thick, sludgy monster when I do that.

The QM and Elements have a little overlap but the QM has more of a classic sound to me and works more like the Pharaoh as a big loud dirty boost (but isn't quite as fat/loose) than the Elements as a modern-sounding standalone distortion. Elements gets way tighter. The QM is another amp/preamp pusher from BAT in my mind and it's absolutely killer. It's also loud as hell.

That's good news. I love the DT, but wanted something a bit more sludgey and out of control since the Zap Machine covers the tamer fuzz toanz. Interesting about the QM, I honestly expected there to be quite a bit of overlap. I'm pumped to see what Mark has cooking with these new NAMM pedals as well. Sounds like the QM may be ideal if I end up running two clean amps instead of one.

I feel like I unintelligibly ramble like an insane person

Don't we all

Yeah, maybe a few years ago...these days my little one wakes me up in the morning at about 7...and he really doesn't care if i'm hungover or not

I'm becoming familiar with that feeling as well. My little girl is 4 months and usually gets up for a feed around 4-5, then out again until 7. Which means I got to bed at old man times when my wife is working at night.

[Kacey Y]

I went and saw chillerthanmost's band open for Black Cobra and Weedeater in Santa Cruz last night. They had a great set, all the tones were rockin. The new SVT sounded killer...but you definitely need another 810 Tony

Black Cobra and Weedeater both killed it. Though Dixie sounded a little different through his rented bass rig, the riffs and the stage attitude carry the songs big time. The new drummer had fuckton of stage presence, he moved around more than most guitarists or lead singers I've seen on stage at similar shows. Black Cobra's guitarist sounded way better tone wise than the last time I saw them with Acid King in 09. He was rockin a Hiwatt Custom 100 head for the guitar half of his rig and it sounded good. Their drummer is always amazing, that guys wails.

Ok the DT and the Ritual compare in that both can sound huge. The Ritual has more sludge in it, though, and is closer to probably the Dream Crusher running at 11. It cleans up to a funky, trashy overdrive sound when you roll back the volume and doesn't have the variation in textures that you get with the DT. I like it best when I push the DLS with it. Just a big, thick, sludgy monster when I do that.

The QM and Elements have a little overlap but the QM has more of a classic sound to me and works more like the Pharaoh as a big loud dirty boost (but isn't quite as fat/loose) than the Elements as a modern-sounding standalone distortion. Elements gets way tighter. The QM is another amp/preamp pusher from BAT in my mind and it's absolutely killer. It's also loud as hell.

I want a new aggressive distortion pedal to pair with fuzzes. I wanted to try out the Quantum Mystic, but I didn't have the scratch to throw down on the preorder at the time. I've thought about the Elements a few times, but it always sounded a little thinner and more mid scooped than I prefer every time I've heard them in person. Sounded like a good standalone pedal for tight metal riffs, I just want something a bit more raw and aggressive than OD without going into full blown "90s metal amp" territory.

[pelliott]

I want a new aggressive distortion pedal to pair with fuzzes. I wanted to try out the Quantum Mystic, but I didn't have the scratch to throw down on the preorder at the time. I've thought about the Elements a few times, but it always sounded a little thinner and more mid scooped than I prefer every time I've heard them in person. Sounded like a good standalone pedal for tight metal riffs, I just want something a bit more raw and aggressive than OD without going into full blown "90s metal amp" territory.

The QM is fuzzy (well, maybe not fuzzy but more like a distorting power amp than the Elements) for a distortion but it is quite aggressive and the EQ is bitchin'.

The Elements can get pretty thick/meaty, however.

[pelliott]

That's good news. I love the DT, but wanted something a bit more sludgey and out of control since the Zap Machine covers the tamer fuzz toanz. Interesting about the QM, I honestly expected there to be quite a bit of overlap. I'm pumped to see what Mark has cooking with these new NAMM pedals as well. Sounds like the QM may be ideal if I end up running two clean amps instead of one.

Yeah the Ritual sounds like it'll be great for what you're looking for. Won't have any of the zip of the DT. And the Zap Machine will get you the textures, the Ritual will get you the thicknasty. Great sludgy palm mutes and power chords.

Pretty goldang jealous of that Zap Machine.

[new05002]

QM is not as tight as the Elements but both can get in the same territory

[pelliott]

I haven't found a setting on the QM quite in that territory but I belieber it.

Must keep tweaking.

[new05002]

Elements Clip plus some other stuff



QM Clip

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vTEHK8X8E[/youtube]

[Kacey Y]

Elements Clip plus some other stuff



QM Clip

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vTEHK8X8E[/youtube]

See Nick, this is why we need more doom/stoner guys making gear demos. Every time I have heard the Elements it's been that Mr Excane style tone. No offense to him, he does cool demos, but his tone is on another continent from what I like most of the time. That sounded thick and meaty, though still a little more mid scooped and tight than I like personally. I want something a little more raw sounding. I'm looking forward to doing some demos with the Volt Thrower when I get the tourbox. That stacked into the Wizard and Cthulhu fuzz is going to happen right away.

[D.o.S.]

excane posts here a bunch, dude. You could PM him and see if he'll do a stylistically different demo.

I think he can play a blues riff in a minor key.

[Kacey Y]

excane posts here a bunch, dude. You could PM him and see if he'll do a stylistically different demo.

I think he can play a blues riff in a minor key.

Not the riffs, just the types of tones. It's not a criticism based on quality, just preference for how I use gear and what I like to get out of it. I think the quality of his demos is top notch, I just haven't ever used one to decide about a purchase.

[celticelk]

Speaking of the QM and other bits of sonic destruction, new pedals from BAT! Check it: http://www.blackartstoneworks.com/

[pelliott]

I SAID A HELLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[D.o.S.]

excane posts here a bunch, dude. You could PM him and see if he'll do a stylistically different demo.

I think he can play a blues riff in a minor key.

Not the riffs, just the types of tones. It's not a criticism based on quality, just preference for how I use gear and what I like to get out of it. I think the quality of his demos is top notch, I just haven't ever used one to decide about a purchase.

Oh, no, I know. I'm just saying you could totally hit him up and be like 'yo gimme that Sabs Vol 4 steez plz?" and he'd probably do it.

[Kacey Y]

Oh, no, I know. I'm just saying you could totally hit him up and be like 'yo gimme that Sabs Vol 4 steez plz?" and he'd probably do it.

Haa...I can haz doom toanz now?

[deathmonkey]

Anyone in Chicago want to play with my band on the Valentines day? we will be on tour and it seems like we have had most of the locals that the promoter booked drop out. I love Chicago, and really want to bum people out there on V-Day, but i don't know many bands from Chicago, unfortunately.