Holy Schnikes wrote:AngryGoldfish wrote:I think it depends on the circuit. My modified Jet City has enough low-end for a small amp, especially on top of a 4x12. It didn't have that much bass before it was modified. My Fryette Memphis has tons of low-end for a small 30-watt amp. It has too much sometimes as with the right guitar it can flub out. I dig that about it. It has nothing on the bigger amps I've tried and owned so I totally get what you're saying, but I love it unconditionally.
Man, I agree. Both my Dwarvenauts have SHIT TONS of low end but one is actually bass spec'd so that's to be expected I suppose. I get what Skip is saying though in that those lows aren't always translated when you're trying to push a buncha speakers (esp 15s) with a mere 15-30W. Running 'em with my 2x12s or a pair of 2x12s sounds pretty massive.
I think alot of my perceived lack of low end is from being used to playing with kt88 / 6550 amps or bass amps and then switching to a little low power amp. My hiwatt has the least amount of bass out of my harem (even though it has more power then my verellen, but that's a 6550 amp) but its not really lacking just not pushing out as much. For me because I use alot of 15's I need that low end to get them pumping, but if your using just a 2x12 or 4x12 I can see them having more than adequate low end for 98% of the possible uses. It really all has to do with design though, the Jet City 20 which had no low end to me is the same chassis as Shannon's Dwarvenauts but they have mods. Through talking with Nick alot there's cap and resistor values they put in to limit the frequency bandwidth, which is what gives an amp its character, if you widen the frequency response to 20-20k it becomes more neutral and "generic" as it loses its character. But to me that's perfect, I want that full response so i can dial it out as I see fit. Subtractive synthesis is superior, as most amps filter out certain frequencies and even if you try and add it before hand via a pedal or EQ it still gets removed once it hits your amps preamp.