16-Second Delay-style Loopers?

[mathias]

So I was watching this video on youtube and wondering if a looper in this style would make more sense than the features of my Flashback (I always sorta thought I'd outgrow the Flashback for just looping. I prefer to keep it around as a nice little many-delays-in-a-box modeler, though.)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POolx0icXwY[/youtube]

My friend Steve Lawson gave a master class on live looping that I attended quite a few years ago, and I really dug his philosophy on it: live looping isn't about getting everything perfect and quantized, it's sort of being in the moment, accepting what happens as what happened and finding ways to play with it. But I'm not quite ready to jump up to Steve's kitchen-sink looper, the rack-based, MIDI-controlled Looperlative: http://looperlativeaudio.com/

So what is out there besides the EHX reissue of the 16-Second Delay? Some features I think are nifty are:

• Snapping the loop length to the recording (which is what most loopers now do, rather than the 16-Second Delay's set loop times, as imprecise as they are..)
• reverse mode
• adjusting the speed of the loop after record
• "simple" record/play/delete controls.. the Flashback is one of those "tap this many times to do X" loopers and I don't want that
• loop lengths of, let's say, at least 20 seconds

I don't really care about size or particular brands, to throw that out there.

All suggestions welcome!

[Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.]

boss rc20xl hits on all of those

i think tho w/ the adjusting the speed of hte loop, u havta save it to memory first then u can adjust the tempo.

obv, dl4, delaylab,, m9, etc all the usual culprits.

[kbit]

2880 as well. & the Boomerangs.
But those are expensive ones.

[ChetMagongalo]

I've found my RC-20XL kind of annoying, I can't have really short loops. It makes me have a minimum amount of time to loop and it drives me nuts >:(

[Seedy]

I've found my RC-20XL kind of annoying, I can't have really short loops. It makes me have a minimum amount of time to loop and it drives me nuts >:(

Yeah that. Among many though, I find the Boss loopers sound the best, I really do. So I use my Boss DD5 for millisecond loops. I wish the Looperlative LP2 would have ever become a thing. I think a handful of people got them but no one is talking about them. The looperlative dude seemed to have gotten very overwhelmed.

I very much wanted it because I had a DL4 and liked it, then got an M9 instead which has everything the DL4 has in a looper but you can play with fx or affect the loop. The Line 6 stuff has "play once" which is a great retrigger but there's no way to retrigger it and then play continuously. The Looperlative LP2 does have that awesome option, but I lingered on the website for a year as people complained about paying $300 and waiting, and waiting, and waiting. I moved on. I would love a Boomerang 3 though, that's pretty close to perfect on paper at least.

[mathias]

I wonder if I could just build a Raspberry Pi with an audio interface and a MIDI interfaces to approximate a looperlative in a much smaller package.

I remember there being a ton of live looping apps that I used on my last laptop, but that laptop didn't have the horsepower or audio interface to really do a lot.

Random idea that I'll keep thinking about.

Edit: for reference: http://linuxaudiolive.wordpress.com/200 ... ware-only/