STRYMON FLINT - it's a trem/verb, apparently

[Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.]

kinda off topic, but whats the deal w/ ppl selling used strymon pedals on ebay for more than strymon themselves sell them brand new for?

even when they are IN stock on the website?

and its not just the timeline (well TL is preorder) either!
i've seen almost every strymon pedal on ebay atleast 30-50 dollars higher than retail.

[Gunner Recall]

they also know from their previous experience that there's a solid market for well-executed, tweakable digitally-modelled versions of utterly conventional shit, and that--as IMO is also the case with Subdecay's modulation pedals--that a multiplicity of features will obscure the fact that the underlying sound's kind of flat, digital, and not all that fantastic.

Those are some pretty harsh words.
Subdecay's pedals were "analogmojo'd" for years before the DLX versions came out...the standard prometheus and quasar are some of my favorite mod pedals.

Clearly you're not a tweaker so chalk it up to that...but to slag on the sound just because you don't like knobs seems a bit heavy handed.

[excane]

kinda off topic, but whats the deal w/ ppl selling used strymon pedals on ebay for more than strymon themselves sell them brand new for?

even when they are IN stock on the website?

and its not just the timeline (well TL is preorder) either!
i've seen almost every strymon pedal on ebay atleast 30-50 dollars higher than retail.

Very simple....because people will do anything to try and make a buck.

Either that, or they used it for 2 minutes and realized it has a shitload of features they'll never use and packed it back up and try to make money off it.

[dubkitty]

Those are some pretty harsh words.
Subdecay's pedals were "analogmojo'd" for years before the DLX versions came out...the standard prometheus and quasar are some of my favorite mod pedals.

Clearly you're not a tweaker so chalk it up to that...but to slag on the sound just because you don't like knobs seems a bit heavy handed.

you misunderstand me. i've spent literally hundreds of hours programming presets for my various digital processors, so i'm probably over-qualified as an effects tweaker. seriously, you don't want to be in the room with me when i'm mixing. i really like the Prometheus and Quasar's step filtering and waveform capabilities...i just don't care for the sound of the actual filters or the way the envelope filter on the Prometheus behaves on the demos i've heard. i'm incredibly picky that way; i'm already on record here that the only current EF whose sound i like is the DiscumBOBulator. don't take it personal

[excane]

i'm already on record here that the only current EF whose sound i like is the DiscumBOBulator. don't take it personal

Funny... I love that filter sound (tone) as well.

It doesn't have any of the bells and whistles that other recent EF's have come out with, but for a standalone pedal it brings the funk hardcore.

[Andrew]

Oh that's amazing.

would never buy it at even close to full price. strymon is silly to me.

Make friends with the owner of the guitarstore.

[Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.]

kinda off topic, but whats the deal w/ ppl selling used strymon pedals on ebay for more than strymon themselves sell them brand new for?

even when they are IN stock on the website?

and its not just the timeline (well TL is preorder) either!
i've seen almost every strymon pedal on ebay atleast 30-50 dollars higher than retail.

Very simple....because people will do anything to try and make a buck.

Either that, or they used it for 2 minutes and realized it has a shitload of features they'll never use and packed it back up and try to make money off it.

kinda turns me off from getting a strymon (not the company itself), if these are the types of ppl who get down w/ them....KIND OF. not really tho.

[Snufkino]

Strymon stuff is great, but I'm just bummed they didn't go full on trem.
I'd rather have a fully featured trem than 3/5 reverb and 2/5 trem.

Indeed, a fully featured tremolo would have been more interesting, f.e. with an harmonic content intensity knob or a wave selector.. even a dual simultaneous tremolo for the second switch would have been better.

Yeah, I was really hoping their next pedal would a dedicated tremolo, BUT they haven't said what the "hidden" controls are yet, so maybe their will be wave/symmetry/bias shaping. However, since they're trying to keep things simple, and their products are always fairly vanilla, I doubt it, but I'm interested to know what additional tweaking can be done with it. Doubt I'll ever buy one though, even though trem and reverb are the effects I'm most interested in.


And as for the bitching about Strymon, lolwot? I don't get why people get so hot and bothered about their products. You know already that they churn out expensive, but simple products, so deal with it and go about your day.

Yes, it's a shame they seem to put out high quality pedals and have a really in depth approach to development, but that there's not more interesting pedals in their line up, but... that's how they are. It's like moaning about why Ferrari don't make hovercraft/quad bike hybrids. Oh, not another sportscar? WTF? How dare they! How dare they not make exactly what I want! How dare they market themselves to a particular income bracket and not mine!

[Snufkino]

would never buy it at even close to full price. strymon is silly to me.

Ah, that old chestnut. Let's see what buying these effects separately would cost;

Catalinbread Paredolia (harmonic trem): $189
BYOC tremolo (let's just call this the 'tube' trem): $75
Voodoo Labs trem (optical I think): $129

Let's be generous about the reverb, and bunch it into one pedal, since most reverb pedals have multiple modes anyway.

TC Hall Of Fame: $149

$542 in total. And those pedals don't have stereo in/out, exp out, and whatever else the Flint might have, and don't come under one small enclosure.

Sounds like decent deal if those sounds are what you're after with no bells or whistles.

FWIW I have zero intention of buying a Flint, or any Strymon pedal for that matter. But saying this is expensive is an utterly redundant arguement.

I also have reservations about the sound of the reverb given how seemingly flat the BlueSky seems to sound, but I'll reserve judgment on that until I hear it.

[Gone Fission]

I actually kind of like the idea of the pedal. I just have several higher priorities for spending money on gear.

[Gearmond]

would never buy it at even close to full price. strymon is silly to me.

Ah, that old chestnut. Let's see what buying these effects separately would cost;

Catalinbread Paredolia (harmonic trem): $189
BYOC tremolo (let's just call this the 'tube' trem): $75
Voodoo Labs trem (optical I think): $129

Let's be generous about the reverb, and bunch it into one pedal, since most reverb pedals have multiple modes anyway.

TC Hall Of Fame: $149

$542 in total. And those pedals don't have stereo in/out, exp out, and whatever else the Flint might have, and don't come under one small enclosure.

Sounds like decent deal if those sounds are what you're after with no bells or whistles.

FWIW I have zero intention of buying a Flint, or any Strymon pedal for that matter. But saying this is expensive is an utterly redundant arguement.

I also have reservations about the sound of the reverb given how seemingly flat the BlueSky seems to sound, but I'll reserve judgment on that until I hear it.

the way i sees it, its more HoF verb + Boss trem, and MAYBE the CBread (don't remember a harmonic tremolo option on the flint at all) which comes out to around $220-ish.

theres also the advantage in multiple pedals of having them on at the same time. which is always trippy as hell with tremolo

[dubkitty]

It's like moaning about why Ferrari don't make hovercraft/quad bike hybrids.

Damnit, now I'm going to be daydreaming about hovercraft / quad bike hybrids all damn day. Make mine Lamborghini, though. V12 for life.

why doesn't Ferrari make tremolo pedals?


































they did, but withdrew from the market after complaining that the McLaren tremolo pedal had too large of a footswitch

[Muse FTW]

http://www.strymon.net/products/flint/

Some sound clips are up.

[Gunner Recall]

Ok the harmonic trem sounds pretty awesome

and the two peaks clip

[bronzetalon]

Yea demos sounded good buy they always do.