bigchiefbc wrote:Just got back myself from the TB gtg. Jrmy, you left just a bit too early man! Right after you left, Bryan asked my to bring my pedalboard in, and even though 90% of the guys there were "non-fx" guys, I had at least 10 people try out my board afterwards. It was pretty cool.
Yeah, there were a lot of guys that were just there to look at $3000+ bass pr0n and nothing else, but most of the people were pretty open about it. Also, I ended up trying the MXR Bass Envelope Filter through my pedalboard, and goddamn do I need one of those. The first time an env filter ever really did what I've been looking for it to do (i.e. NOT FUNK)
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, it figures. I didn't get to try Bryan's crazy AxeFX rig either. Ah well. Next time I'll bring my board too, and we can set up a massive Wall O' FX corner to really mess with the Zon guys.
Oh, and that MXR Bass Envelope Filter was shockingly good. I have to say that I agree - it's totally worth getting. Some really awesome non-funk envelope sounds in that thing.
I ignored this pedal on another lame ass form do to the person's pushing it posting style buggs the crap out of me..
So when you guy's say not funk you do mean synth right can it pose as a smaller cheaper sub for say the moog LPF?
I don't know about that. I thought it had a good funk sound, but it was more aggressive than that syrupy sound people may think is "the" funk sound. I have a demo of it here so you can see for yourself.
bigchiefbc wrote:Just got back myself from the TB gtg. Jrmy, you left just a bit too early man! Right after you left, Bryan asked my to bring my pedalboard in, and even though 90% of the guys there were "non-fx" guys, I had at least 10 people try out my board afterwards. It was pretty cool.
Yeah, there were a lot of guys that were just there to look at $3000+ bass pr0n and nothing else, but most of the people were pretty open about it. Also, I ended up trying the MXR Bass Envelope Filter through my pedalboard, and goddamn do I need one of those. The first time an env filter ever really did what I've been looking for it to do (i.e. NOT FUNK)
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, it figures. I didn't get to try Bryan's crazy AxeFX rig either. Ah well. Next time I'll bring my board too, and we can set up a massive Wall O' FX corner to really mess with the Zon guys.
Oh, and that MXR Bass Envelope Filter was shockingly good. I have to say that I agree - it's totally worth getting. Some really awesome non-funk envelope sounds in that thing.
I ignored this pedal on another lame ass form do to the person's pushing it posting style buggs the crap out of me..
So when you guy's say not funk you do mean synth right can it pose as a smaller cheaper sub for say the moog LPF?
By not funk, I mean not that annoying-ass quacky crap that everyone plays in every env filter demo I've ever heard. I set the sensitivity really low, so that the filter barely opens, and had the range set so that it did this really slow "buwwwwowwwwwwwwww" thing. It was pretty synthy, yeah, but its still a bandpass filter, not an lpf. So its not gonna do a real good moog impression I don't think.
one bad monkey wrote:I don't know about that. I thought it had a good funk sound, but it was more aggressive than that syrupy sound people may think is "the" funk sound. I have a demo of it here so you can see for yourself.
Huh... sounds... a lot.... like a... bassballs, yeah, bassballs, neat. It's actually hard for me to tell how that would sound with my rig due to that our sounds are night and day. hmmm... I like it.
bigchiefbc wrote:By not funk, I mean not that annoying-ass quacky crap that everyone plays in every env filter demo I've ever heard. I set the sensitivity really low, so that the filter barely opens, and had the range set so that it did this really slow "buwwwwowwwwwwwwww" thing. It was pretty synthy, yeah, but its still a bandpass filter, not an lpf. So its not gonna do a real good moog impression I don't think.
Yeah, me no like quack either. I prefer LPFs for most things but bandpass can really be cool too.. so compared to the guyatone?
one bad monkey wrote:Huh... sounds... a lot.... like a... bassballs, yeah, bassballs, neat. It's actually hard for me to tell how that would sound with my rig due to that our sounds are night and day. hmmm... I like it.
I think the first time I ran it with the Arc Flash, my exact comment was "Hey, I made a very expensive BassBalls copy." I do like that though; we've got a couple of funk/rock tunes in a movie of ours that I pull the pedal out on for good effect.
Yeah, I've got a tone that most people don't like, until it's in a band context, and then they can hear me really well. The soundguys love it though; that's what I get for years in musical theatre pits.
I don't dislike your tone at all. But I shoot for a really oldschool type of sound, comments I usually get are like "wow I haven't heard a sound like that in a longggg time"
You owe it to yourself to try the Source Audio BEF. It can do the traditional funk stuff, but the synth applications for this thing are crazy. My band is a fairly straight ahead indy/rockish original thing, and before this every time I turned on a filter in practice before this my guitarists would just look at me with that "dear god, don't ever do that again" look. I'm now using this in a few songs, one in a more traditional envelope filter funk line and one as a straight up synth bass with some distortion fed into it. The only downside is its size, but seeing as you can get a zillion different sounds with it, I've committed and designed a board around it and a couple other SA pedals. The cost is pretty good to for something that gives you so many great sounds.
You owe it to yourself to try the Source Audio BEF. It can do the traditional funk stuff, but the synth applications for this thing are crazy. My band is a fairly straight ahead indy/rockish original thing, and before this every time I turned on a filter in practice before this my guitarists would just look at me with that "dear god, don't ever do that again" look. I'm now using this in a few songs, one in a more traditional envelope filter funk line and one as a straight up synth bass with some distortion fed into it. The only downside is its size, but seeing as you can get a zillion different sounds with it, I've committed and designed a board around it and a couple other SA pedals. The cost is pretty good to for something that gives you so many great sounds.
/Fanboy off
Hmm, maybe I just didn't get the hang of the controls, but I tried the Source Audio BEF at the talkbass gtg through the same rig I tried the mxr on, and all I could get out of it was bootsy, no matter which mode I was on. Everything was pure funk. I couldn't get it to not open up in a huge funky quack.
bigchiefbc wrote:[ Hmm, maybe I just didn't get the hang of the controls, but I tried the Source Audio BEF at the talkbass gtg through the same rig I tried the mxr on, and all I could get out of it was bootsy, no matter which mode I was on. Everything was pure funk. I couldn't get it to not open up in a huge funky quack.
I'm not going to lie, I didn't get it the first week or so I had it. I've had the Tri-Mod Wah for awhile and was thinking that it sounded vastly superior to the BEF. But sometime within the last few weeks it started to click for me. I wish I understood what I'm doing different now than what I was at the time, but I have no clue what happened. Also, though this probably goes without saying, throwing your favorite dirt before it definitely helps with the synthy/non-quacky aspect.
Mudfuzz wrote:I don't dislike your tone at all. But I shoot for a really oldschool type of sound, comments I usually get are like "wow I haven't heard a sound like that in a longggg time"
Nice, sounds pretty cool! I dig that old school sound.
I was finding that for me, a lot of the gigs I was doing involved no amp, just straight into the house. I had that sound to where I really liked it, and then spent a long (and expensive) amount of time searching for an amp that would allow me to sound the same plugged in as it would direct. PJB stuff fits the bill, so I'm a happy monkey, you know?
can it pose as a smaller cheaper sub for say the moog LPF? 
