Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the modulator masses

[Dandolin]

coolness!

[Dowi]

In the HX, beside the old (legacy, M-Series) Ring Mod and Freq. Shift you have these 2 new ring mod FXs:

- AM Ring Mod: a ring modulator to which you can apply a AM modulation. To the AM you can further apply an LFO (which can be synced to tap tempo/Midi clock)

- Pitch Ring Mod: this ring mod (monophonically) tracks what you plays, so that the FX is in tune (a bit like the Subdecay Vitruvian Mod, so you can create those fat ring mod octave down type of sounds, for example), you can shift the RM by octaves (+/-3 if I remeber well) and fine tune it to your likings. (this after a reverb or delay is pure glitchiness madness!)

Super-intrigued by those, do they track well with "fast" playing too?

Ring-mod speaking i'm quite settled with the Bitquest Ringmod, i use it in that mode 99% of the time, and it does just sound great and super clean, but i would love to hear some different tweaks from the digital realm.

[$harkToootth]

@gila - I am also intrigued now. Can you please talk more about this? I don't have specific questions. I want to know things you do, things you think you want to do, things you think you could do, and things that scare you.... all regarding the HX Ring Mods.

[gila_crisis]

I love Matango!!!!
The Ring Modulators in the HX stomp are really great!
The Pitch Ring Mod tracks really well, I didn't tried it yet with super fast speeds, but with single notes works really well.

And with 4 types of RM to choose from, you have really a lot to play/experiment with! Maybe a demo video would tell you more, about what these can do.

I find it's a bit of a shame, Line6 didn't provide a manual including an in depth description all FX parameters (like the used back then with the M-Series), so I discovered a lot while using the unit and testing it out. Also a cool feature these RM is that on most of them you have a HP/LP filter, so these lets you cut all the unwanter low or high end.

In general the HX Stomp is a really powerfull machine/tool. In short think of it like a Zoom Multistomp, but with high-end FXs inside (in the like of Strymon, Eventide, Meris, etc...) and super powerful, fully user configurable routing/switching.

[Dandolin]

How ever did I miss this video? [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GG9oQSLS7s[/youtube]

[qersty]

i wish all demos were in gundam attire

[Chankgeez]

Haven't heard this yet, but I'm interested:



TRING Tremolo / Ring Modulator.
Slow to VERY fast tremolo and Ring Modulation. Sine or Sawtooth waveforms. Fast Med Low toggle and panel Null knob with Mix, Speed and Volume adjustment.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6CQJeKH_wE/

[Dandolin]

whoa!

Null knob?

[ck3]

I had a Green Ringer clone many moons ago with a null switch, which didn't seem to noticeably alter the signal. Wonder if the Basic Audio unit's knob serves the same function and curious what it might actually be in technical terms.

[crochambeau]

My guess is that "null" is a balance of sorts that*, when set in a dead-on-balls position for your current temperature, humidity, and lighting, will completely negate any carrier bleed from spilling over into the output.

So, not something to chuff your jets in terms of wow factor while you're playing/listening, but something that will make life a warmer experience while the rest of your signal chain is in shut-the-fuck-up mode.

(* if actually an effective implementation)

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, Curtis, I think you're right.

This's what John wrote about it on Instagram: "...You tune out the ring. "Null" it out with this knob. I put it on the top because depending on the frequency the null point shifts a little. And who knows, you might want some ring in there for something…"

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6CQJeKH_wE/

[chromandre]

I had a Green Ringer clone many moons ago with a null switch, which didn't seem to noticeably alter the signal. Wonder if the Basic Audio unit's knob serves the same function and curious what it might actually be in technical terms.

I think in the case of the green ringer the "null" mod is an extra adjustment to get the most apparent octave but if you used high tolerance or matched parts you might not even need the adjustment.

[lordgalvar]

In the HX, beside the old (legacy, M-Series) Ring Mod and Freq. Shift you have these 2 new ring mod FXs:

- AM Ring Mod: a ring modulator to which you can apply a AM modulation. To the AM you can further apply an LFO (which can be synced to tap tempo/Midi clock)

So you get a tremolo on top of the ring modulation? Ring modulation is amplitude modulation (just a specific instance of it). Or can the amplitude be controlled with like an envelope filter like a slow gear too? Tremolo on carrier? If any is the case (except trem on carrier), I don't think it would be hard to replicate on a zoom mfx. I'm just curious what it actually does or of I'm understanding correctly.

On the pitch one, can you set the carrier range/offset? Like if I want the carrier in the 10khz+ range, but in tune, will it do that? What are the carrier ranges overall?

[CBA]

Hey ring-nuts.

What size enclosure is a Randy's Revenge in? 1590BB or 1700CC or 18,000GG or what ever the fuck those are.

Thonk!

[lordgalvar]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6tUANWHPNM/

That's like the Motormatic, holowon, etc. Pretty cool. I like Doug's simple take.

Iirc, Randy is the same size the Lastgasp big pedals (Misty cave etc). Don't know if that helps. It might be a little taller than those. I never remember those size names.