Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the modulator masses



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:52 pm

UC w/ the ability to get into ring mod territory (listen w/ headphones):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQVaDklIqM

Sounds promising. :snax:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:01 pm

luvvit :love: all the knobžżź :love:

Sounds vry cool too :p
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby jondom22 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:32 am

FYI - Pigtronix Ringmaster on sale today for $129 on musiciansfriend's stupid deal of the day - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid about half the cost new.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:18 pm

That was a nice price.... What is it w/MF putting the Pigtronix on the SDOTD--they've been doing it for years, every time you turn around.... You'd think if Pigtronix sold so poorly that MF just needed to clear that stuff out, they'd have stopped carrying Pigtronix altogether long before the Ringmaster even came out....

Makes me wonder if Pigtronix have a deal w/ MF to clear returns/refurbs :idk: :snax:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Gone Fission » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:08 am

Ringmaster is in. The two-for of tremolo flavors got me for that deal. Should be able to plug in by the weekend.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:28 am

Have we talked about these cheap, Chinese, digital ring mods yet?

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https://reverb.com/item/26938321-no-bra ... g-included

:idk: :snax:

EDIT: Just looked. Guess they've been mentioned before.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:45 am

I like a lot of the sounds of those Aural Dream pedals, so I bought a cheap used detuner pedal that has some funky lofi sounds, which I like, but it also has a ridonkulous volume drop :idk: I should pair it up in a loop with this Mooer I have that has a ridonkulous boost :lol:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby lordgalvar » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:48 am

I've got one. It's kind of weird and lofi. Don't remember much of a volume drop, but haven't spent much time with it. I just had to waste an Amazon gift card before I lost it. I think it was like $60 new though
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:48 pm

:thumb:

Also, Rob Hordijk playin' an envelope follower with a little frequency shifter (not that excitin' really):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6XpHDU67Mw

:idk: :snax:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:57 pm

Dandolin wrote:I like a lot of the sounds of those Aural Dream pedals, so I bought a cheap used detuner pedal that has some funky lofi sounds, which I like, but it also has a ridonkulous volume drop :idk: I should pair it up in a loop with this Mooer I have that has a ridonkulous boost :lol:


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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:56 pm

Lots of talkin', not enough ring modulatin':



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUjUpX_fnaY
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby $harkToootth » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:52 pm

jondom22 wrote:FYI - Pigtronix Ringmaster on sale today for $129 on musiciansfriend's stupid deal of the day - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid about half the cost new.

I had no idea that was a thing [the stupid deal of the day]... great... another thing for me to compulsively check now. (JK thanks for the heads up :hug: )

I swear, if a Casio XW-G1 pops up in the deals... I’m doing it (despite REALLY not needing another synth).
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:01 pm

psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby $harkToootth » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:51 pm

Yeah me in 30 years. Proof Chank is a time travelor.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby $harkToootth » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:37 am

Cloudscapes ring mod excites and arouses me. Cross post from DIY Projects Thread.
cloudscapes wrote:Its a digitally-controlled analog ringmod. The beefy charge pump power stuff on the right side of the board for the ad633.

There's a bunch of kinds of modulation going on! It's a ringmod, but there are 4 carrier oscillators instead of one. I can modulate their amplitude with a quadrature lfo. So at any given time, the first oscillator is modulated by the lfo normally, the second modulated by the lfo+25% phase, the third by lfo+50% phase, and fourth by lfo+75% phase. It makes for a much more organic "sequenced" ringmod where tones smoothly blend between each-other and often are played simultaneously. Sequenced polyphony in a way. I can vary the phase which is super cool! With the phase dialed lower I get a neat church-bell sequence with a long pause. With phase dialed higher the last oscillator starts overlapping the first and I get an interesting 3/4 sequence with the first doubling up with the last! I'm not locked to quarter phase offset either, it's smooth shifting on the fly.

It's my first project using arm. And I'm also working towards designing a digital/analog hybrid polysynth so I wanted a simpler project to learn arm and make a neat wavetable engine! The wavetables are 10bit (probably overkill), drawn in inkscape/photoshop. The oscillators/lfo interpolate between table samples, as well as interpolating/blending between tables.

I made this diagram:

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