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This is the first time I actually really wanted something modular based. The sounds I heard there were exactly what I want and I can hear it being able to do even closer than I ever imagined.echorec wrote:Pittsburgh Modular has gone live with a Kickstarter campaign to expedite the manufacturing of the VRL. You can buy it with or without the touch plate/ Eurorack case, etc.
They have a history of making products like this because the core instruments have workflow people get very used to and changing the whole interface format for a new version of an already-existing product would mean users have to relearn where everything is. This way they can move over to the new instrument without having to relearn the bulk of how it works.Inconuucl wrote:It's super lazy interface design.
I would argue this still doesn't really make sense. If I had a Digitone that I was really comfortable using, would I buy another Digitone with a keyboard attached, or would I just buy a MIDI controller to use with the Digitone I already own? Maybe Elektron should just focus on making a really nice MIDI controller? That would make more sense to me at leastwhoismarykelly wrote:They have a history of making products like this because the core instruments have workflow people get very used to and changing the whole interface format for a new version of an already-existing product would mean users have to relearn where everything is. This way they can move over to the new instrument without having to relearn the bulk of how it works.Inconuucl wrote:It's super lazy interface design.
Jwar wrote:This is the first time I actually really wanted something modular based. The sounds I heard there were exactly what I want and I can hear it being able to do even closer than I ever imagined.echorec wrote:Pittsburgh Modular has gone live with a Kickstarter campaign to expedite the manufacturing of the VRL. You can buy it with or without the touch plate/ Eurorack case, etc.
Son of a bitch.
So, it’s like 799 for that thing then? I need one. Fuck.
I was also going to mention this, but Muse beat me to it. Honestly, that's a pretty good price if you consider all of the components involved. If you tried making something similar with other modules, you'd likely be spending much, much moreMuse FTW wrote:It's $1229 if you want everything (case + modules + keyboard).
Think about all the people that buy the new version of a pedal just because it has a feature or two that are new. I know people who have rebought multiple EQD pedals just because they have soft switches now. You can always sell the old one and Elektron gear holds its value.MrNovember wrote:I would argue this still doesn't really make sense. If I had a Digitone that I was really comfortable using, would I buy another Digitone with a keyboard attached, or would I just buy a MIDI controller to use with the Digitone I already own? Maybe Elektron should just focus on making a really nice MIDI controller? That would make more sense to me at leastwhoismarykelly wrote:They have a history of making products like this because the core instruments have workflow people get very used to and changing the whole interface format for a new version of an already-existing product would mean users have to relearn where everything is. This way they can move over to the new instrument without having to relearn the bulk of how it works.Inconuucl wrote:It's super lazy interface design.
It's lazy and awful. If it looked like a sub37 then we'd be talking. This doesn't look fun to work with at all, made even worse because the Digitone as it is is so great.MrNovember wrote:I would argue this still doesn't really make sense. If I had a Digitone that I was really comfortable using, would I buy another Digitone with a keyboard attached, or would I just buy a MIDI controller to use with the Digitone I already own? Maybe Elektron should just focus on making a really nice MIDI controller? That would make more sense to me at leastwhoismarykelly wrote:They have a history of making products like this because the core instruments have workflow people get very used to and changing the whole interface format for a new version of an already-existing product would mean users have to relearn where everything is. This way they can move over to the new instrument without having to relearn the bulk of how it works.Inconuucl wrote:It's super lazy interface design.
I'm kinda surprised they didn't go for the Analog Keys form factor, or even something like the Sub 37. The aftertouch and pitch/mod wheel implementation seem great but really not worth it in a clunky layout.spacelordmother wrote:It's lazy and awful. If it looked like a sub37 then we'd be talking. This doesn't look fun to work with at all, made even worse because the Digitone as it is is so great.
You're right - Analog Keys would have been a more realistic example. If they went full-knobby on a 4-part FM engine like the Digitone the synth internet might explode.ts50b wrote:I'm kinda surprised they didn't go for the Analog Keys form factor, or even something like the Sub 37. The aftertouch and pitch/mod wheel implementation seem great but really not worth it in a clunky layout.spacelordmother wrote:It's lazy and awful. If it looked like a sub37 then we'd be talking. This doesn't look fun to work with at all, made even worse because the Digitone as it is is so great.
Plus, they could've just made a Digitone and Digitakt in an Octatrack sized enclosure to function more as a complete groovebox and that would've sold really well
I get there are always people that want to upgrade to the latest and greatest, but it just doesn't really make sense to me. I would think that the market for a nicely designed and laid out synth would be greater than the market for fanboys wanting to upgradewhoismarykelly wrote:Think about all the people that buy the new version of a pedal just because it has a feature or two that are new. I know people who have rebought multiple EQD pedals just because they have soft switches now. You can always sell the old one and Elektron gear holds its value.MrNovember wrote:I would argue this still doesn't really make sense. If I had a Digitone that I was really comfortable using, would I buy another Digitone with a keyboard attached, or would I just buy a MIDI controller to use with the Digitone I already own? Maybe Elektron should just focus on making a really nice MIDI controller? That would make more sense to me at leastwhoismarykelly wrote:They have a history of making products like this because the core instruments have workflow people get very used to and changing the whole interface format for a new version of an already-existing product would mean users have to relearn where everything is. This way they can move over to the new instrument without having to relearn the bulk of how it works.Inconuucl wrote:It's super lazy interface design.
I think Elektron has the brand value where people want the Elektron thing rather than just a MIDI controller they can plug in. It also doesn't hurt that its one piece of gear rather than two separate pieces plus cabling/power supplies/etc...
I've never really looked too closely at the Digitone, but I've honestly never really understood why they went with the Digitakt layout. I would have thought that a slightly bigger enclosure with more knobs and keys would have made much more sense in the first placespacelordmother wrote:You're right - Analog Keys would have been a more realistic example. If they went full-knobby on a 4-part FM engine like the Digitone the synth internet might explode.ts50b wrote:I'm kinda surprised they didn't go for the Analog Keys form factor, or even something like the Sub 37. The aftertouch and pitch/mod wheel implementation seem great but really not worth it in a clunky layout.spacelordmother wrote:It's lazy and awful. If it looked like a sub37 then we'd be talking. This doesn't look fun to work with at all, made even worse because the Digitone as it is is so great.
Plus, they could've just made a Digitone and Digitakt in an Octatrack sized enclosure to function more as a complete groovebox and that would've sold really well
I would definitely buy one!spacelordmother wrote:An Elektron midi keyboard controller with/without Elektron sequencer would sell by the TONNES.
Next Week...She Arrives.
Im fully prepared for this to be meh.echorec wrote:Meris:
Next Week...She Arrives.
Confirmed.Inconuucl wrote:https://www.gearnews.com/korg-volca-nub ... -for-real/