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I feel like they're trying to tell me something with that ad copy, but I just don't know what.Ditto Jam X2 Looper is the tightest, wettest rhythm guitarist you'll ever encounter! Every time you plug in is like prom night.
That has excellent potential for abuse.echorec wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvuIQFvmvcA[/youtube]
Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.01010111 wrote:So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?
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It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in syncwhoismarykelly wrote:Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.01010111 wrote:So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?
OK
Have you ever looped with a band? The things you're saying have to be done consciously are the things that naturally happen when people play music together. Tempos drift naturally. Our hearing tends to focus on a single reference rather than struggling to decide between a looper and a live drummer. If this works it would just make the looper part a non-issue. If you practice and are well-versed in using loopers anyway then the pedal shouldn't have to do that much work.01010111 wrote:It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in syncwhoismarykelly wrote:Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.01010111 wrote:So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?
OK
That sounds much more complicated than syncing with an external midi clock to me
Whenever I’ve used a looper with other people, we end up ignoring looper because it’s too difficult to keep everyone on tempo with the looper.whoismarykelly wrote:Have you ever looped with a band? The things you're saying have to be done consciously are the things that naturally happen when people play music together. Tempos drift naturally. Our hearing tends to focus on a single reference rather than struggling to decide between a looper and a live drummer. If this works it would just make the looper part a non-issue. If you practice and are well-versed in using loopers anyway then the pedal shouldn't have to do that much work.01010111 wrote:It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in syncwhoismarykelly wrote:Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.01010111 wrote:So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?
OK
That sounds much more complicated than syncing with an external midi clock to me
