The Performance Thread

[nogodsnobedtimes]

What do y'all do if you're the opener? I always thought it was weird when the first or second band on had a big light show or display or some sort, then the headliner comes on like normal.

My old band headlined a couple times and we had some lights and shit, but when we opened I always shunned the idea of doing anything like that. Dumb? Crazy? Needlessly obsessive?

[John Matrix]

We don't really worry about upstaging the headliner...I'm not sure if having all that fog is necessarily better anyway, just different. After a dark, fogged out set, a band that just gets up there and plays can be a breath of fresh air (pun intended). Some people complain about not being able to see us, which doesn't bother me...it is more about creating an atmosphere where we feel comfortable and the focus is not on us as individuals.

If we are opening it is actually easier because we have more time to set all our crap up...being in the middle of a line up is probably the most difficult.

[Seance]

I've only done a little bit of live performance while screening visuals that I've created. But
at some point soon I hope to do more of that. So far I've just set up below and to the side
of the screen. The projected visuals and the instrumental soundtrack that I improvised
in the moment were the focus. I was just a shadow standing off to the side, partially visible
but not illuminated by the projector.

In the future it might be cool to figure out a more interesting projection scheme. In
addition to the idea of wearing white and having things projected onto you, could be
interesting to have some sort of nontraditional items onto which images are projected
(smoke, balloons, indoor waterfall, fabric scrim that flaps around from an electric fan?).

I've posted these before, but this is the kind of visuals I make:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DFtOeemTlM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPigU3qmIU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM7uBAl_0DU[/youtube]

[comesect2.0]

first show I did had a construction site divider thing some acquaintance stole and threw in my yard so I figured we use that...there were tripods with Styrofoam heads that had been dissolved with spray paint and cigarettes, a rope went around everything...there was bunny fur.....bibles.....pots and pans...radios....knifes....and those lights you use to warm up a reptiles terrarium with red and yellow led bulbs in them...back then we were ACC and our instruments were metal objects, kitty litter jugs filled with bells, vacumm cleaner hoses filled with rocks and shit, a yamaha keyboard, and 6 or 7 micro casseste recorders playing threw different speakers with just pre recorded sounds of animals and politics and commercials and stuff....poetry and noise and stuff......people didnt get it...................whateveerrrr.

pretty cool yall mentioning projecters cuz next time i want to just sit in a triangle and have these photos I collected from google that show blurry images of bot catched porno shining down on me while I twist knobs and stuff


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aesthetic
https://www.facebook.com/TheMattHex/vid ... 453873529/

[Seance]

Sounds cool.

Outdoor projection at night is always magical. Even if it's just on the side of a semi trailer.
Would be cool also to have white fabrics stretched at various angles out over a space where
people walk and listen to whatever sonic skullduggery is churning away.

[01010111]

I always thought it’d be fun to use projectors with thick fog machines to make pseudo holograms, but I feel like that’d take a lot of planning and be EXTREMELY dependent on the venue

[Seance]

I always thought it’d be fun to use projectors with thick fog machines to make pseudo holograms, but I feel like that’d take a lot of planning and be EXTREMELY dependent on the venue

Probably need computer aided projection for full 3-D hologram type effect since
the focus for each element within a projected image is on a plane. Stuff "in focus"
on that 2D projection is always in focus. Whereas for more dynamic projection you'd
want to map the focus to the moving fog being projected onto. Complex.

[01010111]

I always thought it’d be fun to use projectors with thick fog machines to make pseudo holograms, but I feel like that’d take a lot of planning and be EXTREMELY dependent on the venue

Probably need computer aided projection for full 3-D hologram type effect since
the focus for each element within a projected image is on a plane. Stuff "in focus"
on that 2D projection is always in focus. Whereas for more dynamic projection you'd
want to map the focus to the moving fog being projected onto. Complex.

That could very well be true. I need to try this with the projector I have and set up a proof of concept sometime. As long as the room isn’t completely saturated with fog, and the area where the fog is relatively restricted, I would think it’s be possible to set up a crude hologram Scooby Doo style?

[Seance]

I always thought it’d be fun to use projectors with thick fog machines to make pseudo holograms, but I feel like that’d take a lot of planning and be EXTREMELY dependent on the venue

Probably need computer aided projection for full 3-D hologram type effect since
the focus for each element within a projected image is on a plane. Stuff "in focus"
on that 2D projection is always in focus. Whereas for more dynamic projection you'd
want to map the focus to the moving fog being projected onto. Complex.

That could very well be true. I need to try this with the projector I have and set up a proof of concept sometime. As long as the room isn’t completely saturated with fog, and the area where the fog is relatively restricted, I would think it’s be possible to set up a crude hologram Scooby Doo style?

If the fog is pervasive, then you will have shafts of light knifing through the fog and if the projected
image lands on a flat surface then you can focus on that for sure. Would be interesting to see how
racking focus through the fog (trying to focus on various depths of fog) would work.

When I was in Japan in 1984 there were a lot of guitars for sale that had mirrors on them. At first
I was perplexed... but they are meant for bands who perform on foggy stages that have spotlights
shone on them. Reflected light (lasers?!) then comes off the mirrors and sends shafts of light back through
the fog.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Mrc2l1d0[/youtube]

[friendship]

i stopped performing a couple years ago, but I think if I did it again, it would be in a lightless boiler room with army cots that attendees will be required to lie down on.

[ritz]

If you go to a sound bath it's usually a room full of people laying on the floor on yoga mats. Not too far off.