My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

[Davin]

You boys play nice now.

[fuzzisokiguess]

Same dad.

[Davin]

Brother from another mother?

[codetocontra]

Lol, same father for sure.

[PeterBregman]

You boys play nice now.

The older one goes to college, meets someone nice and get married. Everyone likes him.

The younger one drops out of school and lives in Alaska for a few years before becoming a respected abstract painter. People either love him or hate him.

I love them both like only a proud papa can. I’m still close with the first one’s other father.

*end scene*

[Ghost Hip]

Day three and it still riiippppssss. I tweaked the top left trimpot clockwise an 1/8th of a turn which opened it up a little bit so my pick attack wouldn't get quiet/compressed as often.

I love the noise/oscillation in multiply mode. You can get some real crackley/high pitch squeeling, tiny spiders eating the signal shit going. Really fun to set up my jazzmaster's rhythm channel to a different volume and switch between the two. Super versatile that way.

[$harkToootth]

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I regret selling my DARKNESS CD Sounds rad brother!

[Davin]

Day three and it still riiippppssss. I tweaked the top left trimpot clockwise an 1/8th of a turn which opened it up a little bit so my pick attack wouldn't get quiet/compressed as often.

I love the noise/oscillation in multiply mode. You can get some real crackley/high pitch squeeling, tiny spiders eating the signal shit going. Really fun to set up my jazzmaster's rhythm channel to a different volume and switch between the two. Super versatile that way.

Agreed. I haven't had as much time with it as you, but every time it's something new and exciting. I actually love that super compressed pick attack and how it can kick off with a thin fizzy spit that blossoms out into a huge sounding fuzz ... plus I've found am radio skronk, blistering hot roaring chunk, a throbbing tremolo that comes up fast and choppy and slows down as your note fades, random descending sub-octave note decay. Sounds I never knew I wanted. I also love fuzz pedals that are reactive to you guitars control and this one is incredible, the same setting on the pedal can yield three or four, sometimes surprisingly different sounds depending on your volume or tone or pickup.

'Scuse me, but I think we need some time alone now.

[Davin]

You boys play nice now.

The older one goes to college, meets someone nice and get married. Everyone likes him.

The younger one drops out of school and lives in Alaska for a few years before becoming a respected abstract painter. People either love him or hate him.

I love them both like only a proud papa can. I’m still close with the first one’s other father.

*end scene*

I thought maybe one lives in the suburbs, has two kids, tan khakis and totally rips at a local dive a couple times a month with some old high school buddies. The other one is the fun uncle who shows up a couple times a year and sleeps on the couch. He has a motorcycle, interesting stories and no health insurance. When he's in town, the wife takes the kids to her sister's and the two of them tie one on and tell stories about the trouble they both got into together as kids.

[JonnyAngle]

Peter:
What was different from the prototype we played vs production?

I’m ducking with the trimpots. All 3 maxed out. Getting some good oscillation but sounds a little thinner than the stock position.

I’m playing a passive p bass

[PeterBregman]

Peter:
What was different from the prototype we played vs production?

I’m ducking with the trimpots. All 3 maxed out. Getting some good oscillation but sounds a little thinner than the stock position.

I’m playing a passive p bass

Not too much. The prototype had the Edges pot reversed, didn’t have the trim pots, and the treble control frequency was a bit higher (too high). Other than that, nothing aside from pcb layout.

Setting all the trim pots to max probably isn’t the best sound. Setting the bottom left to max is fine (if you don’t mind a big volume jump when engaging Multiply with some settings), and setting the right one to max can be ok (but you’ll get less range with the Expanse control), but setting the top left pot to max probably doesn’t sound great when the other two are maxed. Way too compress-y and feedback-y. Try dialing that back a bit.

[PeterBregman]

You boys play nice now.

The older one goes to college, meets someone nice and get married. Everyone likes him.

The younger one drops out of school and lives in Alaska for a few years before becoming a respected abstract painter. People either love him or hate him.

I love them both like only a proud papa can. I’m still close with the first one’s other father.

*end scene*

I thought maybe one lives in the suburbs, has two kids, tan khakis and totally rips at a local dive a couple times a month with some old high school buddies. The other one is the fun uncle who shows up a couple times a year and sleeps on the couch. He has a motorcycle, interesting stories and no health insurance. When he's in town, the wife takes the kids to her sister's and the two of them tie one on and tell stories about the trouble they both got into together as kids.

Oh man, you’re talking about the same guys, 25 years later. Perfect.

[PeterBregman]

You boys play nice now.

The older one goes to college, meets someone nice and get married. Everyone likes him.

The younger one drops out of school and lives in Alaska for a few years before becoming a respected abstract painter. People either love him or hate him.

I love them both like only a proud papa can. I’m still close with the first one’s other father.

*end scene*

I thought maybe one lives in the suburbs, has two kids, tan khakis and totally rips at a local dive a couple times a month with some old high school buddies. The other one is the fun uncle who shows up a couple times a year and sleeps on the couch. He has a motorcycle, interesting stories and no health insurance. When he's in town, the wife takes the kids to her sister's and the two of them tie one on and tell stories about the trouble they both got into together as kids.

Oh man, you’re talking about the same guys, 25 years later. Perfect.

[JonnyAngle]

Peter:
What was different from the prototype we played vs production?

I’m ducking with the trimpots. All 3 maxed out. Getting some good oscillation but sounds a little thinner than the stock position.

I’m playing a passive p bass

Not too much. The prototype had the Edges pot reversed, didn’t have the trim pots, and the treble control frequency was a bit higher (too high). Other than that, nothing aside from pcb layout.

Setting all the trim pots to max probably isn’t the best sound. Setting the bottom left to max is fine (if you don’t mind a big volume jump when engaging Multiply with some settings), and setting the right one to max can be ok (but you’ll get less range with the Expanse control), but setting the top left pot to max probably doesn’t sound great when the other two are maxed. Way too compress-y and feedback-y. Try dialing that back a bit.

Marked the stock setting, so I’ll keep ducking around. I think the difference I’m hearing is that I’m playing through iems or lo volume vs full blast in the warehouse

[Jwar]

Dude, to get mine kind of where I wanted it, I didn't even quarter turn the other two trimmers. It was an extremely slight tweak and it seemed to make a big ass difference.

I maxed the volume on the multiply (which honestly you can't hear as much as you can feel it).

The one thing I would say Peter is I would have kept the Edges knob reversed. It makes more sense that way. When I turn it counter clock wise it gets louder than when I turn it clock wise. It gets a little crunchier but it annihilates my volume.

I think for bass this pedal is fun, but I'm feeling it's more of a guitar pedal. Honestly, the Brothers is in the same boat. I just can't get it to jive with my bass no matter how I tweak it. Most of the issue with the Brothers is lack of volume as well for me.

Overall it's fun, abrasive and sounds great when being pushed by another pedal especially.