Can we talk about modular synths?
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Anyone think a fully loaded 9U cheeks of steel at 168hp would be flimsy? Debating on a monster sized case instead of having two for the home studio.
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Lol fuck Mutable discontinued clouds too.
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Not like they’ll be hard to come by and the good news is he’s making a granular synthesis based module instead since Clouds was apparently a “mistake”.Inconuucl wrote:Lol fuck Mutable discontinued clouds too.Sigh
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Here's the post from Mutable Instruments. Pretty interesting and funny read:
The last Clouds are being sent to dealers. The module is no longer in production.
To me, Clouds has always been a struggle, the ugly outcome of an entire year of inner battles during which nothing turned the way I expected.
Dyes started in January 2014 as a kind of phase vocoder/spectral freeze effect. Something really fun to play with in Pure Data, but which proved to be disastrous when put into a Eurorack case, because of latency and slow CV sampling rate issues. Throughout the year, my investigations followed two paths: How can we make things sound smudgy, frozen and weird without resorting to FFTs? And what on earth could we run on this bit of hardware with 7 knobs, stereo I/O, 6 CVs and 2 gate/triggers? These two tasks converged towards what is Clouds' default granular processing mode. The enthusiasm of the beta testers confirmed that I was onto something and that I should absolutely release the module, but I was already getting way too conscious of its shortcomings to believe in its success.
One example: Originally the BLEND button controlled dry/wet balance and that was it. Feedback, pan randomization, reverb... had to be obtained through external modules. Then I tried adding those settings, and there was actually a point when these four parameters were still exclusive: if you wanted to use the reverb, then the output of the module was 100% wet and you had to use a mixer to do your dry/wet balance. But almost everybody requested independent, simultaneous control on all these parameters without resorting to external modules, and not in 24-HP please, so I compromised and we ended up with the current implementation of the BLEND knob, which I am not very proud of.
The testers got served a bunch of half-baked treats during the beta testing: delay and looper like functionality, a kind of SST-282 emulation, a reverb-based freeze effect, the original spectral freeze. And no matter how wonky this stuff was, no matter how arbitrary the chosen parameters were (after all everything had to fit in this 7-knob interface)... it still had a sentimental value to me and I could not totally let go of it. It ended up as hidden modes, the ultimate sin!
By the end of 2014 I was tired of the project, wanted to be over with it, so I decided to have 250 Clouds manufactured, which I hoped would simultaneously be the first and last batch. I predicted it would have the same destiny as Edges - something that a few people would totally get and love... and that would go unnoticed by the rest.
And then, in what could be seen as a very meta plot twist, the deity decided to use Clouds to process all the beliefs and perceptions surrounding the module, got confused with this damned BLEND knob, feedback and reverb got stuck to the maximum setting, resulting in a never-decaying smudgy howl of hype. And I felt awful about it.
Omens:
- Explaining at least once a day that Clouds won't make clouds unless you patch attenuated random sources to its CV inputs (corollaries: your Doepfer mini-case with Clouds and an Intellijel audio interface is not what I would call a good starter system).
- Clouds as a simple "end of chain effect" (one jack in, two jacks out), with the heavy lifting often done by the internal reverb and not much else.
- Richard Devine still running the December 2014 firmware.
- That the jokes were always about "Rings into Clouds”, but never "Clouds into Rings".
Let's take a break.
Clouds has shown that live granular transformation is an important sound design tool in a modular system. There ought to be a distraction-free device to perform it. I'm currently building it.
The last Clouds are being sent to dealers. The module is no longer in production.
To me, Clouds has always been a struggle, the ugly outcome of an entire year of inner battles during which nothing turned the way I expected.
Dyes started in January 2014 as a kind of phase vocoder/spectral freeze effect. Something really fun to play with in Pure Data, but which proved to be disastrous when put into a Eurorack case, because of latency and slow CV sampling rate issues. Throughout the year, my investigations followed two paths: How can we make things sound smudgy, frozen and weird without resorting to FFTs? And what on earth could we run on this bit of hardware with 7 knobs, stereo I/O, 6 CVs and 2 gate/triggers? These two tasks converged towards what is Clouds' default granular processing mode. The enthusiasm of the beta testers confirmed that I was onto something and that I should absolutely release the module, but I was already getting way too conscious of its shortcomings to believe in its success.
One example: Originally the BLEND button controlled dry/wet balance and that was it. Feedback, pan randomization, reverb... had to be obtained through external modules. Then I tried adding those settings, and there was actually a point when these four parameters were still exclusive: if you wanted to use the reverb, then the output of the module was 100% wet and you had to use a mixer to do your dry/wet balance. But almost everybody requested independent, simultaneous control on all these parameters without resorting to external modules, and not in 24-HP please, so I compromised and we ended up with the current implementation of the BLEND knob, which I am not very proud of.
The testers got served a bunch of half-baked treats during the beta testing: delay and looper like functionality, a kind of SST-282 emulation, a reverb-based freeze effect, the original spectral freeze. And no matter how wonky this stuff was, no matter how arbitrary the chosen parameters were (after all everything had to fit in this 7-knob interface)... it still had a sentimental value to me and I could not totally let go of it. It ended up as hidden modes, the ultimate sin!
By the end of 2014 I was tired of the project, wanted to be over with it, so I decided to have 250 Clouds manufactured, which I hoped would simultaneously be the first and last batch. I predicted it would have the same destiny as Edges - something that a few people would totally get and love... and that would go unnoticed by the rest.
And then, in what could be seen as a very meta plot twist, the deity decided to use Clouds to process all the beliefs and perceptions surrounding the module, got confused with this damned BLEND knob, feedback and reverb got stuck to the maximum setting, resulting in a never-decaying smudgy howl of hype. And I felt awful about it.
Omens:
- Explaining at least once a day that Clouds won't make clouds unless you patch attenuated random sources to its CV inputs (corollaries: your Doepfer mini-case with Clouds and an Intellijel audio interface is not what I would call a good starter system).
- Clouds as a simple "end of chain effect" (one jack in, two jacks out), with the heavy lifting often done by the internal reverb and not much else.
- Richard Devine still running the December 2014 firmware.
- That the jokes were always about "Rings into Clouds”, but never "Clouds into Rings".
Let's take a break.
Clouds has shown that live granular transformation is an important sound design tool in a modular system. There ought to be a distraction-free device to perform it. I'm currently building it.
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Where does it end!? Olivier is a true artist to be pulling best sellers off the shelves, long before their successors are ready. I really admire him for it.
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he is a VERY interesting guy, and i am always excited about anything he puts out.
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Wow, pulling Braids and Clouds in the same year. I really respect that he pulls successful modules so he can focus on building modules that better fit his vision and allow for evolution and growth from the lessons he's learned. Very excited for whatever he's planning to replace both Braids and Clouds
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anyone want to build me this 8hp Ornament & Crime???

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I bought two PCB and panels that I'm having shipped to me right now.Ruiner wrote:anyone want to build me this 8hp Ornament & Crime???
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At the very least I'll be selling my current O+C and I hope to have 2 of these uO+Cs in my rack. But I can build one for you and use that money to build another one. If you want that PM me.
(I still owe someone on here something else. I'll actually finish it this weekend and PM you if you're still interested, you know who you are.)
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annnnnnnd got a Voltage Block coming in again. she was MISSED.
super excited for VB to Harmonaig action times.
super excited for VB to Harmonaig action times.
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Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Dear DIYers,
What’s a good resource to learn to build your own modules. I have a music box I want to secure to a blank module. I want to attach a contact mic to the back of it and connect that to a 1/4 inch output on the front. Here is the music box going through a piezo mic to give you an idea of what I mean:
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What’s a good resource to learn to build your own modules. I have a music box I want to secure to a blank module. I want to attach a contact mic to the back of it and connect that to a 1/4 inch output on the front. Here is the music box going through a piezo mic to give you an idea of what I mean:
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Wow, Magpie shipping was really fast! New mini setup:


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Ruiner wrote:Dear DIYers,
What’s a good resource to learn to build your own modules. I have a music box I want to secure to a blank module. I want to attach a contact mic to the back of it and connect that to a 1/4 inch output on the front. Here is the music box going through a piezo mic to give you an idea of what I mean:
https://instagram.com/p/BZ2FnLNHV8g/
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Super cool. You could just wire the output of the piezo to an output, you'd need to drill 1 hole in the blank and have minimal soldering to do. Make me one, I wanna bleep my own rolls.
