After this's all over, I hope the U.S. gov't bills Trump for the damage he's done to our reputation
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Re: this Russia thing with Trump and Russia
repoman - Your posts reek of hyperbole and misinformation. Why would you put stock in something posted on reddit? Do you even know who the self-appointed expert who wrote it was? Here are some criticisms of the Stern Review from the same wikipedia page that person quoted.
[...] investments in mitigation that cannot even earn a positive rate of return will be worth far less to future generations than those same dollars invested in the market. Placing climate change before investments in other important nonmarket services such as conservation, health, education, security, and transportation also cannot be justified in the name of future generations. From the perspective of future generations, it is in their interest that all investments earn the same rate of return. The ethical justification for intentionally overspending on selective projects with low rates of return is weak indeed .
[...] in my opinion, Stern deserves a measure of discredit for giving readers an authoritative-looking impression that seemingly objective best-available-practice professional economic analysis robustly supports its conclusions, instead of more openly disclosing the full extent to which the Review's radical policy recommendations depend upon controversial extreme assumptions and unconventional discount rates that most mainstream economists would consider much too low
You seem to be claiming that thousands of atmospheric scientists, worldwide, are involved in a conspiracy, or that they are all a bunch of bumbling incompetents. Those claims would be laughable, if they weren't so disturbingly anti-intellectual in an age of political anti-intellectualism.
The fact is that climate change has been politicized by big money interests like the coal industry, that just don't want to see their bottom lines hurt by regulations. It seems oddly ironic that when the depletion of the ozone layer was discovered, the world came together to ban CFCs. But today, our society has become so greed-driven that these people don't even care if we make the planet unlivable for our kids, as long as they continue to get richer and richer.
I suggest that you actually try to arrange to speak to an atmospheric scientist. Discuss your concerns, and let them explain the science to you. If there is one thing you will never see, it is a right wing politician do that. They will debate the issue with other laymen, but you will never see one try to debate global warming with a real scientist who has spent years, or even decades, rigorously studying the subject.
[...] investments in mitigation that cannot even earn a positive rate of return will be worth far less to future generations than those same dollars invested in the market. Placing climate change before investments in other important nonmarket services such as conservation, health, education, security, and transportation also cannot be justified in the name of future generations. From the perspective of future generations, it is in their interest that all investments earn the same rate of return. The ethical justification for intentionally overspending on selective projects with low rates of return is weak indeed .
[...] in my opinion, Stern deserves a measure of discredit for giving readers an authoritative-looking impression that seemingly objective best-available-practice professional economic analysis robustly supports its conclusions, instead of more openly disclosing the full extent to which the Review's radical policy recommendations depend upon controversial extreme assumptions and unconventional discount rates that most mainstream economists would consider much too low
You seem to be claiming that thousands of atmospheric scientists, worldwide, are involved in a conspiracy, or that they are all a bunch of bumbling incompetents. Those claims would be laughable, if they weren't so disturbingly anti-intellectual in an age of political anti-intellectualism.
The fact is that climate change has been politicized by big money interests like the coal industry, that just don't want to see their bottom lines hurt by regulations. It seems oddly ironic that when the depletion of the ozone layer was discovered, the world came together to ban CFCs. But today, our society has become so greed-driven that these people don't even care if we make the planet unlivable for our kids, as long as they continue to get richer and richer.
I suggest that you actually try to arrange to speak to an atmospheric scientist. Discuss your concerns, and let them explain the science to you. If there is one thing you will never see, it is a right wing politician do that. They will debate the issue with other laymen, but you will never see one try to debate global warming with a real scientist who has spent years, or even decades, rigorously studying the subject.
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Re: this Russia thing with Trump and Russia
point is fuck this tech high society i went to school mumbo jumbo.....POLLUTION=RIPPLE EFFECT
enough money is being wasted on technology having our kids want to work to give their money back for toys/tech gadgets
since outright saying "that road you take is pointless" is the reason the future has turned out the way it has....no one trys anything just feeds the machine
enough money is being wasted on technology having our kids want to work to give their money back for toys/tech gadgets
since outright saying "that road you take is pointless" is the reason the future has turned out the way it has....no one trys anything just feeds the machine
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Here is a good read. The city of Georgetown, Texas, which has a Republican mayor, gets all of its energy from renewable sources.
http://www.npr.org/2017/03/07/519064002 ... ble-energy
http://www.npr.org/2017/03/07/519064002 ... ble-energy
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Re: this Russia thing with Trump and Russia
Please cite the hyperbole and misinformationLurker13 wrote:repoman - Your posts reek of hyperbole and misinformation.
If you want to take an infantile approach to this I can see that line of thought. If you have any clue on how government power creep and bureaucratic power creep works a vast conspiracy is not needed.Lurker13 wrote: You seem to be claiming that thousands of atmospheric scientists, worldwide, are involved in a conspiracy, or that they are all a bunch of bumbling incompetents. Those claims would be laughable, if they weren't so disturbingly anti-intellectual in an age of political anti-intellectualism.
Funny how big oil (IE Exxon/Mobile) is one of the major supporters of AGW now huh?Lurker13 wrote: The fact is that climate change has been politicized by big money interests like the coal industry, that just don't want to see their bottom lines hurt by regulations. It seems oddly ironic that when the depletion of the ozone layer was discovered, the world came together to ban CFCs. But today, our society has become so greed-driven that these people don't even care if we make the planet unlivable for our kids, as long as they continue to get richer and richer.
Maybe you should venture out of the liberal bubble and propagandist media machine and watch some long boring lectures by:Lurker13 wrote: I suggest that you actually try to arrange to speak to an atmospheric scientist. Discuss your concerns, and let them explain the science to you. If there is one thing you will never see, it is a right wing politician do that. They will debate the issue with other laymen, but you will never see one try to debate global warming with a real scientist who has spent years, or even decades, rigorously studying the subject.
Piers Corbyn, Dr. Patrick Moore (founder of Greenpeace, and the only scientist amongst the founders), Alex Epstein, Freeman Dyson, Physics Nobel Prize winner Ivar Giaever, Professor John Christy. These people cover a wide range of political affiliation and have impeccable credentials.
I believe climate changes, man most likely has an impact on its change, the significance of mans impact is vastly overstated.
That reddit post is pretty easy to understand and simply shows how the Paris Accords are completely useless in terms of combatting temperature increase.
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I want to sloppily kiss whomever made this. Sorta NSFW, so:
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Sweet dealin's: here
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Re: this Russia thing with Trump and Russia
Also, once again:


…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Sweet dealin's: here
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Re: "Lordy, I hope there are tapes"
What's up with McCain?
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Sweet dealin's: here
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Same thing as Harry Reid?Chankgeez wrote:What's up with McCain?
Since I always forget:
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"late night baseball"?
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Sweet dealin's: here
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Seems like normal behavior for him.Chankgeez wrote:What's up with McCain?
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Oh look.. They finally found a way to scapegoat voter machine tampering...
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Re: "Lordy, I hope there are tapes"
“I can definitely say the president is not a liar,” said White House deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders after the hearing.
So we're back to alternative facts?
So we're back to alternative facts?

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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Sweet dealin's: here
"Now, of course, Strega is not a Minimoog… and I am not Sun Ra" - dude from MAKENOISE
#GreenRinger