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Re: Try the meatloaf!!!???!!!

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jrfox92 wrote:Apparently, people actually believe Trump was referencing April Ryan's "blackness" when he made the "can you set up a meeting with the CBC" crack.
They also believe he actually thinks that's how it works.

From my perspective, it looks more like he's trying to say, "why the fuck are you bringing that up here, do you have friends from the CBC that told you to? Why don't we have a talk with them." :idk:
Not that that's a good thing, but seriously.
He's definitely more known for his deft use of nuance and irony than his history of racial discrimination and stereotyping.

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But I do hope he eliminates the H-1B visa program before the impeachment/resignation. We have 300,000,000 people in this country, and the best university system in the world. So what skill set could we really need that we can't find here?

And the abuses have been awful. It's been used as a way to replace American workers with cheap foreign workers, some who needed training by the American workers they were replacing just to do the job.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/opin ... .html?_r=0
Closing loopholes and eliminating the program are two different things. This is the same reason we shouldn't abolish welfare because of a fraudulent food stamps scam.
Well that's a good point, and it's kind of hard to argue with the principle. But from my admittedly subjective point of view, I see the welfare program as helpful, and the H-1B visa program as harmful. Again, I can't think of any skill set that can't be found right here.

I also don't trust legislators to close loopholes. A lot of loopholes in legislation were put there intentionally, and the wealthy donors responsible for them being there in the first place don't want them closed and will push hard to keep them from being closed.
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Yeah that's true, and it's really tricky to figure out. I don't think the problem is with H-1B itself, though -- these universities are the best in the world in part because they can bring in, say, the best bioscientists-in-training from around the world.
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Yes, that is a good and important distinction but there is a difference between the professor or professors that we want here to help educate future American workers versus bringing in loads of people from other countries to work jobs Americans could be working.
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Faldoe wrote:Yes, that is a good and important distinction but there is a difference between the professor or professors that we want here to help educate future American workers versus bringing in loads of people from other countries to work jobs Americans could be working.
Exactly what industries are you actually considering?
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Mudfuzz wrote:
Faldoe wrote:Yes, that is a good and important distinction but there is a difference between the professor or professors that we want here to help educate future American workers versus bringing in loads of people from other countries to work jobs Americans could be working.
Exactly what industries are you actually considering?
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that's interesting that large companies can easily get h1-Bs. I have a few coworkers here on them and for us It was a really expensive and long process where we had to prove that their skill sets didn't exist in the US commonly. But we are owned by a major company, so maybe that does effect the decision.
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Can't we just ban Trump from traveling and make him stay in D.C. for a while?

Make him deal with all his (and, as a result, our) problems.
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Faldoe wrote:Yes, that is a good and important distinction but there is a difference between the professor or professors that we want here to help educate future American workers versus bringing in loads of people from other countries to work jobs Americans could be working.
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Ahem...BUT MY PROFIT MARGINS!!!
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I think T got confused. He was referencing the CEG/irerror show in Oslo
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Not to make excuses but he probably meant France. I mean, it was like 4am, I'm sure he was all coked out and tired. lol
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jwar wrote:Not to make excuses but he probably meant France. I mean, it was like 4am, I'm sure he was all coked out and tired. lol

probably meant probably doesn't cut it if you're unwilling to go back and be like, "hey i fucked up, tho" amirite?
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I really wish John Oliver was even slightly funny.
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jrfox92 wrote:I really wish John Oliver was even slightly funny.
:idk: No one out side of Lewis Black has had anything to do with being funny and the daily show in the last 8 years though :idk: I like the some despite this.
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