frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
yeah this is the thing about the deco that has me a little hesitant, i don't even think I would use the drive at all. i just want weird slapback-y tape-y double tracking shit with flangey-chorus-y flavors in one box.
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
Well, I don't have any SS/BS, but anyway, are you sure there isn't even a tiny difference between innovative products creating new sounds versus generic overdrive #9000? Also not sure whether you could actually describe the whole ILF-demographic as being into glitchy noisemakers. Some of us are, but I generally see more Boss-pedals, fancy reverbs and ambient delays on here than actually crazy foozboxes. Probably exactly the same at TGP. But yeah, stereotypes are fun.
I think midge is saying that we're still speaking the same language as TGP. Fetishizing gear and stuff. We have a lot more in common than pretty much everyone else. Still using the language of consumption to express our trvest selves.
And yeah, I get that everyone at ILF isn't the same person...but I'm pretty sure that's understood when talking about any community/group, so I'm not sure how much it adds.
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
Probably because it doesn't cost $300 to make something like this, yet the newest SS/BS was really cheap for how much went into the god damn thing.
Yes and it was extremely quirky. So it could be argued that one is no better than the other in regards to usability.
You flipped your PY before getting halfway into that rabbit hole so what would you know, buster!
Also there's a thread on tgp approaching 50 pages, the last 10 being full of its target demographic expressing contempt for the price.
And with SS/BS Pretty Years we had concept art from day 1. Not some scavenger hunt or hidden image search of clues and breadcrumb trail to YET ANOTHER BASIC DRIVE PEDAL. We got a quirky or utility dirt/oddmod/drone box with a trio of microtubes and 4 diff resonant filters with 10 knobs and 8 toggles...in a considerably more handsome enclosure put together by a 1 man operation
Plus a 12" lp and awesome t-shirt.
The album was great. The pedal was good. I spend a lot of time with it, but for me as a bass player I could not find anything usable. Maybe if I were just making noise it'd be the best ever? Who knows.
My point was in the usability. Now Brian didn't claim anything about that, so I'm not disappointed, I knew what I'd be getting and love him and his pedals. I just don't jive with them on bass. Not sure why?
I was simply stating that it funny people are so weird about dropping 300 on this versus that. You don't know how much r@d goes into any of their pedals or how much it costs to program them, have the enclosure custom fabricated, anodize and screened. How could you unless you worked for Strymon? I doubt they put out things without doing a lot of research.
I'm not even a fan of Strymon. I just think it's hilarious how jaded folks around here are about certain brands.
OH Praise and Worship bro. Can't use that.
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
Invisible Man wrote:
And yeah, I get that everyone at ILF isn't the same person...but I'm pretty sure that's understood when talking about any community/group, so I'm not sure how much it adds.
It'll add jack squat when I'm living in a van filled with pedals down by the river.
psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
…...........................… Sweet dealin's: here "Now, of course, Strega is not a Minimoog… and I am not Sun Ra" - dude from MAKENOISE #GreenRinger
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
Well, I don't have any SS/BS, but anyway, are you sure there isn't even a tiny difference between innovative products creating new sounds versus generic overdrive #9000? Also not sure whether you could actually describe the whole ILF-demographic as being into glitchy noisemakers. Some of us are, but I generally see more Boss-pedals, fancy reverbs and ambient delays on here than actually crazy foozboxes. Probably exactly the same at TGP. But yeah, stereotypes are fun.
I think midge is saying that we're still speaking the same language as TGP. Fetishizing gear and stuff. We have a lot more in common than pretty much everyone else. Still using the language of consumption to express our trvest selves.
And yeah, I get that everyone at ILF isn't the same person...but I'm pretty sure that's understood when talking about any community/group, so I'm not sure how much it adds.
Indeed.
So yeah, for the record, there is no such thing as "THE" tgp crowd, or "THE" ilf crowd. My point was basically just: To each their own, live and let live, etc.
We're all the same, in a different way. Fuck, that's the most hippy thing I ever said/typed
Anyway, I don't judge anyone who thinks nice graphics and the mension of a couple microtubes are enough to order a 300$ fuzz pedal. And I couldn't care less if someone else prefers to preorder a Strymon overdrive pedal. Hell, if I had the scratch I'd probably do shit like that every day
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
Probably because it doesn't cost $300 to make something like this, yet the newest SS/BS was really cheap for how much went into the god damn thing.
Yes and it was extremely quirky. So it could be argued that one is no better than the other in regards to usability.
You flipped your PY before getting halfway into that rabbit hole so what would you know, buster!
Also there's a thread on tgp approaching 50 pages, the last 10 being full of its target demographic expressing contempt for the price.
And with SS/BS Pretty Years we had concept art from day 1. Not some scavenger hunt or hidden image search of clues and breadcrumb trail to YET ANOTHER BASIC DRIVE PEDAL. We got a quirky or utility dirt/oddmod/drone box with a trio of microtubes and 4 diff resonant filters with 10 knobs and 8 toggles...in a considerably more handsome enclosure put together by a 1 man operation
Plus a 12" lp and awesome t-shirt.
The album was great. The pedal was good. I spend a lot of time with it, but for me as a bass player I could not find anything usable. Maybe if I were just making noise it'd be the best ever? Who knows.
My point was in the usability. Now Brian didn't claim anything about that, so I'm not disappointed, I knew what I'd be getting and love him and his pedals. I just don't jive with them on bass. Not sure why?
I was simply stating that it funny people are so weird about dropping 300 on this versus that. You don't know how much r@d goes into any of their pedals or how much it costs to program them, have the enclosure custom fabricated, anodize and screened. How could you unless you worked for Strymon? I doubt they put out things without doing a lot of research.
I'm not even a fan of Strymon. I just think it's hilarious how jaded folks around here are about certain brands.
OH Praise and Worship bro. Can't use that.
Dis.
I can't imagine prefering one pedal over the other only cause I read somewhere that that particular pedal comes from a one-man operation
And yeah, I agree there's more to it than the costs of the components and parts. One thing's for sure though, if you'd look for youtube clips of the PY and the Riverside, I'd say it's clear which company spends the most on marketing
I'm not taking sides btw, I'm cool with both strymon and ss/bs, their peds usually cost more than what I wanna spend on stuff like that, and they're usually also overkill for me in every other way
frigid midget wrote:Sure it's boring as fuck imo too. But isn't it still kinda funny seeing 8 pages of mostly disgust for this pedal and its target demographic, while we keep buying the latest greatest SS/BS stuff sight unseen
Srry, don't see much of a difference Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises I'm sure the tgp crowd doesn't get how we go apeshit over yet another crazy fuzz box, just like their obsession with clean boosts and dumble-in-a-box shit is a mystery to us
Well, I don't have any SS/BS, but anyway, are you sure there isn't even a tiny difference between innovative products creating new sounds versus generic overdrive #9000? Also not sure whether you could actually describe the whole ILF-demographic as being into glitchy noisemakers. Some of us are, but I generally see more Boss-pedals, fancy reverbs and ambient delays on here than actually crazy foozboxes. Probably exactly the same at TGP. But yeah, stereotypes are fun.
Not innovative you say?
Riverside is the culmination of a thorough analysis of numerous analog and vacuum tube circuits. Our goal? To deliver a new world of harmonically rich, incredibly versatile, tube-inspired drive sounds. We didn’t want to build just another distortion or overdrive. We knew we must examine what has been done, and bring a new approach to the world of drive sounds.
How's that for innovation!!??
Srs though, it's all subjective, there's probably more people who laugh at the stuff we call "ground breaking" than there's people who think the new Strymon is boring. I'm not into blues or subtle overdrives either, but the clips I heard from the PY (talking about a scavenger hunt btw) didn't impress me. That's just me ofcourse. For the stuff I play/like, deliberately scratchy sounding controls and wobbly filters on a fuzz pedal would be about as useful to me as an asshole on my elbow
And yet, an asshole on your elbow is actually incredibly useful, if you think about it.
Never again pull over to take a shit.
Cydonia wrote: Too bad no one here is interested in talking about "gear"
BossMann73 wrote:I didn't insult it......I "curated" a "different aesthetic.".
John wrote:I love how this forum has the GDP of Switzerland in pedals but the collective value of everyone's patch cables is less than the change in my couch cushions. And I don't have a couch.
Some dudes are just into playing rehashed blues licks, others like making glitchy noises
