Sunday GAS Party (secret santees.....be stalked here)

[lordgalvar]

I built that LPG into a guitar effect not long ago that went so well with crochambeau's pedals and their CV, I figured why not get back into synths? I'd probably do only diy though...been looking at the paia 97000 and some Serge diy, but at some point I would just want to go my way and finish the dumb stuff I have in my head. I know the DU-RDT and SEQ ain't that unique (shift register/logic) but I just like they're setup and the gate thing is a big improvement over the sequencers I've used over the years. Haha, I tend to read and try to figure out more than making a format commitment.

I read that thread on muffs...was really annoying haha. It prompted my transpose question in the modular thread.

Anyway, congrats on the wedding!

[crochambeau]

Yeah, I get the marketing angle, and props to them on not just grabbing a crowbar and slapping a micro-computer in there and going the firmware route (NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT). I just feel like marketing often casts a dilution on terms to the point at which it is seriously detrimental and the entire world suffers. *TTL* would work, though I guess there's a level of familiarity with it to relay that fact. Neat fact is that I've burned the last several days mired in direct logic (holy shit, there's another applicable term that is not a lie) work in the 4000 series stuff.

Discrete means no PN junctions hiding inside a fucking die. Discrete means the user can exploit full access.

I am a couple beers in, ignore me.

I built that LPG into a guitar effect not long ago that went so well with crochambeau's pedals and their CV, I figured why not get back into synths?

Oh fuck, my apologies if I helped push you down the modular hole.

Upside is that I plan on formatting some stuff to that realm, but I am genuinely apprehensive about it due to having observed a few of my "synth" friends and their, well, particular anal retentiveness, for lack of a better term.

ALIGNMENT
CLEAN
DOOM

I also feel like it's easier to design for a proper bipolar supply, single ended 9 volts is a bastard.

4u panels for the win though.

Anyway, congrats on the wedding!

Agreed!

[psychic vampire.]

Modular was an idea i spent forever thinking was terrible, then convinced myself was going to be okay. Ultimately decided it wouldn't be alright. Mad respect for the people who can do it and make it look easy and sound good. Karenn is one of my favorite techno acts doing shit today. It just wasn't for me.

THAT SAID, what drew me to modular more than anything was the insane sequencers being made. Seriously, some of that shit is just so beautiful and weird. So i definitely back your desires LG, even though i'll say: it's going to be an enormous money pit that you can never recall the same thing twice. Good luck!

[lordgalvar]

Yeah, I get the marketing angle, and props to them on not just grabbing a crowbar and slapping a micro-computer in there and going the firmware route (NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT). I just feel like marketing often casts a dilution on terms to the point at which it is seriously detrimental and the entire world suffers. *TTL* would work, though I guess there's a level of familiarity with it to relay that fact. Neat fact is that I've burned the last several days mired in direct logic (holy shit, there's another applicable term that is not a lie) work in the 4000 series stuff.

Discrete means no PN junctions hiding inside a fucking die. Discrete means the user can exploit full access.

I am a couple beers in, ignore me.

I'm totally with you on that, haha. I also think that people have terrible grammar and are even worse at expressing what they mean (and this is probably the underlying issue...they just chose order buzzwords in an awful way). Heck, since I've been on forums and forced to talk to people I normally would have in person via messaging apps, I've noticed my level of communication become a horrid empty shell casing.

Oh fuck, my apologies if I helped push you down the modular hole.

Upside is that I plan on formatting some stuff to that realm, but I am genuinely apprehensive about it due to having observed a few of my "synth" friends and their, well, particular anal retentiveness, for lack of a better term.

ALIGNMENT
CLEAN
DOOM

I also feel like it's easier to design for a proper bipolar supply, single ended 9 volts is a bastard.

4u panels for the win though.

I've been leaning that way for years haha. I guess just having something to interface with that I enjoyed made me look into DIY more (and follow through). Seems like my CV use and all that just kind of ramped up to where I kinda just wanted a more adaptable sketchpad. I had almost taken this path years ago when it was all MOTM, .com, and all that but held off.

4U, Frac, all that...just someplace to stick stuff without making a full case haha. I'm using the term "modular" loosely.

Modular was an idea i spent forever thinking was terrible, then convinced myself was going to be okay. Ultimately decided it wouldn't be alright. Mad respect for the people who can do it and make it look easy and sound good. Karenn is one of my favorite techno acts doing shit today. It just wasn't for me.

THAT SAID, what drew me to modular more than anything was the insane sequencers being made. Seriously, some of that shit is just so beautiful and weird. So i definitely back your desires LG, even though i'll say: it's going to be an enormous money pit that you can never recall the same thing twice. Good luck!

All DIY and crap or I don't see a point haha. That PAIA system seems pretty flexible to me for not too much investment (not that I would get that one...just saying that 2 VCO, 2 Filters, VCA, rack, panels, midi to cv, and two looping envelopes for 560 ain't that bad...Elby Euro Serge for a creature like setup wouldn't be too much an investment either). I think the sequencers are just a jumping off point in my brain for other stuff. I think there are ways of doing something if you have a solid base with a bit of creativity. With two LFOs and a ring mod, I can have a pretty neat gate/trigger sequencer; using an astable multivibrator to switch relays (and making that more complicated with ring mods/more oscs and relays into a sequencer)...dumb stuff like that. However, there are a few Eurorack DIY setups I think would just save time for half the cost (and no breadboard headaches) (like the DU-RDT and like a VCO or something). All that Euroserge, CGS, Haible stuff (though sometimes expensive for a PCB) would be good practice (and can be adapted to any format I want...like I did with the LPG).

I do believe a hefty investment into any DIY modular setup would be heck of a lot more fun that spending 1k+ on whatever mono synth is produced...plus spread costs.

Also, I never recall the same thing twice anyway, I figure starting from scratch each time is probably better for me haha. Even when I had a band, I doubt I ever played anything the the same twice (even within the same song).

I dunno...it's all down the road and just something on the side whenever I figure something out. Then again, I may go the path of least resistance... eurorack. A lot of words to say "I dunno, maybe?"...

All to freaking make blast and d-beat bongo drums.

[rustywire]

I'm totally with you on that, haha. I also think that people have terrible grammar and are even worse at expressing what they mean (and this is probably the underlying issue...they just chose order buzzwords in an awful way). Heck, since I've been on forums and forced to talk to people I normally would have in person via messaging apps, I've noticed my level of communication become a horrid empty shell casing.

Tru.dat
I make an effort to choose my words carefully.
Ineffective communication is bad enough without people reducing nuanced ideas to polarized mischaracterizations. Dem kneejerk reactions.
It's like, soon as the brain sees something disagreeable a common response is "SO YOU"RE SAYING ITS OK TO <emotional appeal of extreme crime against humanity>" jamming that square peg narrative into every round hole in sight.

[lordgalvar]

Heck, now that I am a few beers into thought, I notice my own damn typos haha.

The way it probably happened was Detroit Underground, a record label, hired a circuit designer (consultant) to make something cool in a way that supported their label image (or an independent contractor contacted them). DU then took the design and sent the concept and a rough layout to a graphic designer/UI guy on staff. That designer then completes something that DU felt represented their image well (glitchy technology, Japanese kind of influence) and would standout from other designs. The person that designed the circuit probably knows the difference and the designer/label probably didn't care because it sounded cool and looked cool on their panel (or did something like choose descriptive words from the circuit designer's description). I personally think a word like monolithic is cooler than discrete, but to each their own. I don't think the dude that designs for DU is on staff (all links go to a consulting firm called logick.ca).

Anyway, I guess it got us talking...so success? I also think the actual functional design is pretty well thought out and very well setup for a live environment.

But what I am really gassing for, by order of my wife, is something like this:

https://reverb.com/item/2689137-framus- ... p-beauty-r

She told me to be on the lookout for one

Don't know anything about them (or acoustic in general...never played one haha no ring mod).

[crochambeau]

Oh yeah, that thing looks cool as hell for sure. And being built from individual logic blocks I understand how they arrived to that - I just disapprove of the term, hahaha. Especially after picking this up:



I'm not ready to back up all this tough talk with a true discrete logic build yet though, haha.

(guitar looks cool too!)

[Chankgeez]

But what I am really gassing for, by order of my wife, is something like this:

https://reverb.com/item/2689137-framus- ... p-beauty-r

She told me to be on the lookout for one

Don't know anything about them (or acoustic in general...never played one haha no ring mod).

(guitar looks cool too!)

I approve of both of these GASSES!

What do you wanna know about guitars like that, lg?

[Strange Tales]

That guitar looks like it comes with a bucket of pomade.

[Chankgeez]

That guitar looks like it comes with a bucket of pomade.

Psychobilly ring mod?

[D.o.S.]

Ulysses Everett and the Dapper Dan Band?

[lordgalvar]

That guitar looks like it comes with a bucket of pomade.

Psychobilly ring mod?

I'd do if asked haha (and could figure out some riffs).

I wore pomade for a little bit...turns out I'm allergic to something in a lot of them. Was talking to my barber and she said to use sweat...which was what I always thought looked best (fine, uncombable hair).

I guess what my wife wants is for me not to feedback and stare at the wall trying to find the nosebleed frequencies at show volume anymore (doesn't mind so much now, but will).

She doesn't like the sound of electrics unplugged and I guess would prefer to kinda jam unplugged at the moment. So, acoustic or semi...just thought those kind were pretty damn cool (but a Mosrite Celebrity might be right).

Never really looked at those archtops before except in passing. They have different scales, frets, and necks right? Are they all kinda like a lot of old Japanese guitars where you live with quirks and bad action/intonation sometimes (not that the pitch being off bothers me...just the Mosrite keeps its pitch so well I've been kind of spoiled...no need to constantly tune even with my heavy hand).

Used to skinny necks, 25 scale, and stuff I guess haha. Never even thought I would ever want an acoustic...I guess next is a ponytail and mustache *

I just really don't like the way normal acoustics look and I ain't wholesome enough I guess.

And, yes! Discrete logic....I had been reading a lot about logic in audio after I kinda got to thinking about wave rectification.

* Not a dig...some people can rock that look...I can't. Haha, plus generalized resistance of that singer songwriter from the heart stuff.

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, I think you want an electrified archtop thinline or something. I think they're kinda the best of both worlds.

It sounds like you do want a Mosrite Celebrity.

A lot of Japanese (Italian and German too) guitars of this type do usually have less than a 25" scale length. And, of course, there are all the quirks. I think it sometimes adds to the charm, but not always. Seems you'd be most comfortable with the Mosrite.

[Inconuucl]

http://www.epiphone.com/News/Features/2 ... ldkat.aspx

I don't know what draws me to this guitar but.

[lordgalvar]

Yeah, I think you want an electrified archtop thinline or something. I think they're kinda the best of both worlds.

It sounds like you do want a Mosrite Celebrity.

A lot of Japanese (Italian and German too) guitars of this type do usually have less than a 25" scale length. And, of course, there are all the quirks. I think it sometimes adds to the charm, but not always. Seems you'd be most comfortable with the Mosrite.

I knew the Japanese, German, and Italian lean shorter scale anyway....just when I look at those guitars from any maker, they all seem to have stubby necks and less frets. Just looks weird to play (some traditional acoustics are like that too, right?). I guess they are meant for more open chording probably instead of sliding Barre chords? I dunno, just don't know if it would be a big transition (I.e. frustrating) coming from surf guitars. Kinda wanted to try something different haha.

But you know you can't take the Bakersfield outta the noise guy. I think you're right (and my instincts)...Mosrite haha.

I still want one of those blues benders too though.




I love quirky guitars too though haha. Like my Welson...thing is the right choice in low output situations.