Roland 909 Day 24 hour stream

[Psyre]

The sax Aerophone thing?

Haha, I just saw that.

Well shit....looks like it will be about $800. Saw it listed on an AU site for $1400 though


I hope there are enough buyers for a low secondary market.

[psychic vampire.]

I know people will still get these, and make great music with it, and i'm sure they're fine. They're just not for me. But in the same way that the TR-8 is just completely not for me. I'm glad it exists; people do really cool shit with it and it's something else out there. I'm not even disappointed, because it was all i ever expected from Roland. People who need convincing Jupiter 8 emulations with knobs and a 30 day warranty will get the System 8. I won't.

On the other hand, that fucking Korg Volca Kick, amirite? I want dat thing. And an interesting monosynth with patch storage and full MIDI CC compatibilty and no keyboard.

[rfurtkamp]

Pausing the video I saw no loop, no MIDI din. The lower price makes me think a crippled version of the 100 and 001 engine. Unless it does have the full engine, hard pass. And even then I would hope for class-compliant MIDI-over-USB and give a long thought before buying.

Looks like a GT-XXX.

https://www.boss.info/global/products/g ... fications/

Looper is there, Midi DIN has always been GT-100 only. Basically looks to be a GT-001 with footswitches and without an XLR input.

Will have to see the manual for it to determine if full engine (realistically, yea, probably will be).

But it's a "geared towards baseline user" at a buck ninety nine. With two GT-XXXs in house already, don't need a third realistically.

[rfurtkamp]

And looking at the quick start videos, it's that engine, has Tera Echo and the same layout.

May have some stuff not included, but that'll be manual to determine.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7c5qk4Nhg[/youtube]

[rustywire]

I know people will still get these, and make great music with it, and i'm sure they're fine. They're just not for me. But in the same way that the TR-8 is just completely not for me. I'm glad it exists; people do really cool shit with it and it's something else out there. I'm not even disappointed, because it was all i ever expected from Roland. People who need convincing Jupiter 8 emulations with knobs and a 30 day warranty will get the System 8. I won't.

On the other hand, that fucking Korg Volca Kick, amirite? I want dat thing. And an interesting monosynth with patch storage and full MIDI CC compatibilty and no keyboard.

Right. I'll just keep using Rebirth for the time being. The Volca Kick fo sho, it's going to be a huge success I can feel it.
As for the *interesting monosynth with wishlist* have you considered a Slim Phatty?

[Gone Fission]

And looking at the quick start videos, it's that engine, has Tera Echo and the same layout.

May have some stuff not included, but that'll be manual to determine.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7c5qk4Nhg[/youtube]

Hmm. If it's the full engine with all the sounds, routing, and parameter modulation, that gets interesting. I guess Boss would have to do that to move any quantity when the GT-100 is turning up for $250 used pretty often--cost and space savings would be the selling points. Production costs are saved in plastic casing, pre-developed tech, and probably falling component costs.

Even if it's just by dropping the floor on the 100/001 used market, this does make it more likely I pick up a GT unit of this gen, so that is a good thing.

[rfurtkamp]

Yea, I got a NIB 100 for 350 shipped, couldn't say no (and I wanted the FX loop).

Realistically, this is just a "get rid of the lowest hanging fruit on the old product tree", which is the now ancient ME-25.

I keep hoping for a successor to the 100, it's time - been about the five year cycle.

[psychic vampire.]

Right. I'll just keep using Rebirth for the time being. The Volca Kick fo sho, it's going to be a huge success I can feel it.
As for the *interesting monosynth with wishlist* have you considered a Slim Phatty?

Yeah, the Volca Kick was maybe the first Volca since the Volca Bass that made me have that "Oh shit" moment, and i already know where and how it would fit into the music i've been writing, most of my songs already have 2 or three different kick drum sounds doing 4 on the floor mixed with off-beat hits and other things, it would be cool to free up the Low Tom on my MD for actual Low Tom duties and get an analog kick in there doing its fucking thing. The Volca FM and the Volca Bass piqued my curiousity, but the Volca Kick i'm like damn, yeah.

And yeah, i've considered a slim phatty. It's basically a top contender next to its friend the Minitaur, or the venerable shruthi. I want to love the Evolver desktop, but the hard-panned oscillators kill me. Given the "analog renaissance" we're currently in, there's surprisingly few monosynths that fit the criteria of MIDI CCs, patch storage, tabletop unit, which shocks me. If the interface wasn't such complete shit, i would sometimes consider picking up another Roland MKS-50 again, because you can still find them at alright prices.

[rustywire]

Minitaur would be infinitely better if its VCO weren't capped at 100Hz and instead extended the full 20-20k range like the VCF.
As it is, it's too restrictive for me to justify. Otherwise I would've bought one years ago.

[codetocontra]

Oh shit yeah, Volca Kick. I've been flirting with the idea of grabbing the Volca Drums for a long time. To some extent having the three synths makes sense. They dropped the ball with the Sample though, really should have had a mic input or even an internal mic.

[psychic vampire.]

God yes. The Minitaur could have been so much more. It kills me. Also, the Volca Sample, why can't it actually sample? Fucking synths these days.

[ProCarsteNation]

so while some of the new offerings seem like nice little toys maybe,
I can't shake the feeling that it makes sense, that 9-0-9 pronounced in English sounds like "no, oh no" in German.?
That the whole event calls more for facepalms than fistbumps...

but yeah, handful of toys+ looper + patchulator... off you go

[01010111]

God yes. The Minitaur could have been so much more. It kills me. Also, the Volca Sample, why can't it actually sample? Fucking synths these days.

The waldorf pulse 2 looks like it'd be a good fit for what you're looking for? It seems to tick all the boxes.

You can upload your own samples to the Volca Sample. You just have to use a smartphone...

[rustywire]

God yes. The Minitaur could have been so much more. It kills me. Also, the Volca Sample, why can't it actually sample? Fucking synths these days.

The waldorf pulse 2 looks like it'd be a good fit for what you're looking for? It seems to tick all the boxes.

You can upload your own samples to the Volca Sample. You just have to use a smartphone...

Dealbreaker.
These hardware companies are getting too cute and fancy free with poor design decisions
YOU CAN SAMPLE WITH YOUR SMARTPHONE SO THERES NO NEED FOR A DEDICATED LINE-IN AND ADC ON OUR HARDWARE *SAMPLER*

[psychic vampire.]

Minitaur would be infinitely better if its VCO weren't capped at 100Hz and instead extended the full 20-20k range like the VCF.
As it is, it's too restrictive for me to justify. Otherwise I would've bought one years ago.

Oh, and just a heads up, bc i wasn't sure about this before. The VCOs both go much higher than 100Hz, they have like a 6 octave range - MIDI notes 0 to 72, the octave above Middle C, apparently - it's the LFO that caps at 100Hz, which seems pretty respectable. That said, the Minitaur is frustrating in that you have to use a computer editor to get to a lot of the hidden features that are fairly important to me.

The Waldorf Pulse 2 is an amazing beast, with tons of great features. The UI has scared me. But it is definitely one i've thought about. I'd have to buy from Juno.co.uk, the american prices are too high.

Really, i just wish Korg would make a Volca based on the DW-8000 (read ESQ-1) style digital waveforms with aliasing and weird shit into analog VCA/VCF combos where you can overdrive the VCA. That would get me to fucking drop everything and hand them money. I get that it would be hard to pull of an interface that gave you a bunch of wave shape options on multiple oscillators on a Volca style chassis, but they can do it, and enough people would buy it. I've long thought the biggest fucking problem with the DW-8000 and the ESQ-1 and the K3 is that no one wants a fucking 61 key keyboard, and it's impossible to find the rack mounts at good pices.