NAMM leaks, announcements, and rumors

[echorec]

Empress has set up a product page with selectable mode tabs, so that you can hear individual banks. I'm listening to the Beer (Glitch & Gated) page now, along with the Ghost clips. They've also added an Ambient Swell video to their YouTube feed.

http://empresseffects.com/collections/p ... cts/reverb

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y723ShTeHrQ[/youtube]

[echorec]

Empress Reverb day continues

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc-dkMn54TI[/youtube]

[Chankgeez]

Just in time for Summer NAMM.

[echorec]

Just in time for Summer NAMM.

Yeah, at least there's hasn't been a Nemesis part II yet. It seems most stuff has found its way to retailers, or remains on schedule. It doesn't look there is much stuff being delayed for 10-15 months like some past things (I'm looking at you, Malekko).

Speaking of Summer NAMM, it doesn't seem like many new pedals ever hit the scene. I don't know if it's because of the retail calendar, or the LA/Nashville dynamic. For me personally, Musikmesse has been a more interesting show for new releases than Summer NAMM.

I lived in the Nashville area for about 8 years, and builders/merchants/others consistently complained to me about other Nashville guitar & gear shows (not enough deals or connections are made, it's just a weekend of servicing tourists and window shoppers). Partly because of that I never went to a single NAMM. I had fun on my lone gear show trip (2012?), but that was likely due to the fact that it was closing night and multiple builders were drinking and starting to loosen up.

[Jero]

Summer namm
More like bummer namm
Am i right?

[Seance]

The Bicycle Delay looks interesting, but...I have a Timebender that does 95% of those tricks, and a Lexicon Vortex that does the rest in spades and so much more.

Does the Timebender do frequency shifted delays? Or just pitch shifted delays?
What about the Vortex? Does it allow you to put a frequency shift in the feedback loop?
I was wondering if the Boss DD-500 allowed you to program something like that.

As far as I understand it, the frequency-shifted delay and pitch-shifted delay are different.
Pitch shifts at a given pitch, whereas the frequency shifts move things up a frequency amount,
which sometimes pushes repeats into musical intervals (thirds, fifths, octaves, etc.) but not always.
Which leads to the clangorous "ring moddish" churn of the Catalinbread Bicycle.

Or... maybe I don't know what I'm talking about?

[Inconuucl]

Pitch is frequency. A pitch shift is just a quantized frequency shift.

[rfurtkamp]

Yea, it's a case of I don't go by ad copy either, I go by what my ears hear and are telling me.

Time Bender does so much more than that, and if I want the ringmod sound that's not pure octave (and most of it in that delay sounds like it), Vortex has modes with both envelope-controlled amplitude modulation and ring mod.

If one of the Bicycles crossed my path for $50, I'd grab it, but that's about what it would realistically take.

[Jwar]

I want to bang that reverb so bad, but that price. My goodness gracious.

Fer real though. I'll wait for used. Fuck that. lol

I'm going to good the Timebender that sounds like fun.

[Seance]

Pitch is frequency. A pitch shift is just a quantized frequency shift.

Well that may be, but the way a pitch-shifting delay and frequency-shifting change the note
seems to be different. At least that is what I gathered from this post that Sean Costello (valhalladsp)
wrote on a tgp thread about the Bicycle Delay:
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"Frequency shifter" refers to something very different than pitch shifting. A frequency shifter adds a constant offset to every frequency present in the signal, while a pitch shifter (ideally) multiplies every frequency by a factor.

For example, imagine that you are playing the A string on your guitar. Your signal will have the following frequencies in it:

110 Hz (the fundamental)
220 Hz (2nd harmonic, 2X the fundamental)
330 Hz (3rd harmonic, 3X the fundamental)
440 Hz (4th harmonic, 4X the fundamental)
550 Hz (5th harmonic, 5X the fundamental)
etc.

If you ran your guitar through a pitch shifter, shifting up by +7 semitones, you'd have the following harmonics in the output:

165 Hz (the new fundamental)
330 Hz (the new 2nd harmonic, 2X the new fundamental)
495 Hz (the new 3rd harmonic, 3X the new fundamental)
660 Hz (the new 4th harmonic, 4X the new fundamental)
825 Hz (the new 5th harmonic, 5X the new fundamental )
with all the remaining harmonic frequencies being 3/2 times the original frequency.

The pitch shifter will preserve the harmonic ratios of the frequencies in your signal...ideally. In reality, there are often some weird sidebands generated by the pitch shifting process, but we can ignore that for now.

A frequency shifter will add a constant offset to the frequencies. Let's say that you shift up by 55 Hz, so that the base frequency of the note matches the output of the pitch shifter set to +7 semitones. The output would be:

165 Hz (the new fundamental)
275 Hz (the new 2nd "harmonic," 1.6667 times the new fundamental)
385 Hz (the new 3rd "harmonic," 2.3333 times the new fundamental)
495 Hz (the new 4th "harmonic," 3 times the new fundamental)
605 Hz (the new 5th "harmonic," 3.6667 times the new fundamental)

The output of the frequency shifter is no longer a signal with harmonics spaced at integral multiples of the base frequency. The new overtones are at weird, non-integer ratios. The sound of this is very clangorous, and is closer to a bell than a guitar string. Play a note besides A, and things will sound even weirder.

The concept of putting a frequency shifter in the feedback loop of a delay dates back to Delia Derbyshire's work on Dr. Who:

https://valhalladsp.com/2009/05/19/the- ... nd-dr-who/

It's a cool sound, and very different than putting a pitch shifter in the feedback loop of a delay.

Sean Costello
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[Chankgeez]

Why didn't you quote my much less technical post which immediately preceded his, Seance?

(Also, that color's really difficult to read in ILF Dark.)

[Seance]

Why didn't you quote my much less technical post which immediately preceded his, Seance?

(Also, that color's really difficult to read in ILF Dark.)

Shorter, less technical post? Brevity is the soul of no thank you!
I like my quotes technical and off-color.

[Seance]

On the same tgp thread about the Bicycle Delay, chankgeez said
the following when talking about the difference between pitch-shifting
and frequency-shifting:

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That may be, but pitch shifters and frequency shifters sound very different.
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[Chankgeez]

Thanks, I was really only joking.

(Only about not quoting me though. That color was really difficult to read in ILF Dark. Thanks for changing it. )

[Seance]

Thanks, I was really only joking.

(Only about not quoting me though. That color was really difficult to read in ILF Dark. Thanks for changing it. )

It is only through joking and an assortment of font colors legible on ILF Dark that we all make up
the quilt-like mosaic of ILF.