DigitechWhammy Ricochet/Dirty Robot!?!

[lost in music]

Did you do any third-party polling on the graphics for the Ventura Vibe?

[neonblack]

I try not to judge design choices too harshly because it might be someone's baby and we just dont get it.

But I was really hoping to get that bare metal prototype..

[jrmy]

BTW, don't take my flippant response above as a negative for some sort of possible Space Station II getting made. Anyone who has been following my interviews and online conversations knows that I want to make a new Space Station in the worst way. Sometimes things are harder to accomplish than they appear.

Out of curiosity - and if this is something you don't feel comfortable going into on a forum, that's totally understood - but what would you say is the primary sticking point (or points) with the Space Station? Is it legal, engineering, programming, market interest, or something we're not even considering?

[Tom Von Kramm]

Did you do any third-party polling on the graphics for the Ventura Vibe?

Polling is only good for discovering overall trends.

Specifics rely on experience and intuition.

[Tom Von Kramm]

BTW, don't take my flippant response above as a negative for some sort of possible Space Station II getting made. Anyone who has been following my interviews and online conversations knows that I want to make a new Space Station in the worst way. Sometimes things are harder to accomplish than they appear.

Out of curiosity - and if this is something you don't feel comfortable going into on a forum, that's totally understood - but what would you say is the primary sticking point (or points) with the Space Station? Is it legal, engineering, programming, market interest, or something we're not even considering?

I've gone into this in depth on TGP, but I'll try to make a synopsis here:

The DSP in the XP Series was a rare chip that used proprietary code. The DSP is no longer available and the code cannot be ported to other DSP platforms. Everything in the XP would have to be coded from scratch, and because of that it would be a huge undertaking and it would never sound exactly the same.

There is also a huge amount of internal cultural bias against the Space Station. People don't remember that at the time it was a HUGE flop, we literally couldn't give them away. Guitarists may forget that failure but, believe me, a business doesn't forget.

Think about this question: Could it be that the used prices are being driven up because of scarcity? Because there weren't many XP300's out there in the first place? Because no one bought them in the first place?

[lost in music]

When did the xp300 come out?

[Tom Von Kramm]

I'm not exactly sure, I'd have to look it up. But I think it was '95.

[jrmy]

BTW, don't take my flippant response above as a negative for some sort of possible Space Station II getting made. Anyone who has been following my interviews and online conversations knows that I want to make a new Space Station in the worst way. Sometimes things are harder to accomplish than they appear.

Out of curiosity - and if this is something you don't feel comfortable going into on a forum, that's totally understood - but what would you say is the primary sticking point (or points) with the Space Station? Is it legal, engineering, programming, market interest, or something we're not even considering?

I've gone into this in depth on TGP, but I'll try to make a synopsis here:

The DSP in the XP Series was a rare chip that used proprietary code. The DSP is no longer available and the code cannot be ported to other DSP platforms. Everything in the XP would have to be coded from scratch, and because of that it would be a huge undertaking and it would never sound exactly the same.

There is also a huge amount of internal cultural bias against the Space Station. People don't remember that at the time it was a HUGE flop, we literally couldn't give them away. Guitarists may forget that failure but, believe me, a business doesn't forget.

Think about this question: Could it be that the used prices are being driven up because of scarcity? Because there weren't many XP300's out there in the first place? Because no one bought them in the first place?

Thanks for the recap - I'm guessing that with certain crowds ( ), you have to repeat that a fair amount. All totally valid reasons, alas. And while I do truly wish there were more crazy noisemakers in the world, I can certainly understand that it's not a large / coherent / easily wrangled market.

We're glad for every little bit of weirdness you've been able to bring back or bring into existence in the first place, that's for sure!

[Chankgeez]

[pd~]

I'm not exactly sure, I'd have to look it up. But I think it was '95.

'98, according to some docs I just checked.

[lordgalvar]

98? Dang, all the ones I saw were beat up by 2001...

If you ever see a tie die paint swirl space station, sorry...and a chrome whammy (I think that was what I did)...

[Jwar]

Bro I know you're busy but I'm losing my mind!

[Chankgeez]

98? Dang, all the ones I saw were beat up by 2001...

If you ever see a tie die paint swirl space station, sorry...and a chrome whammy (I think that was what I did)...

I always knew you were secretly Jack White.

[lordgalvar]

If that is the one I painted, oh man, he has some bad taste or a high tolerance for bad paint haha.

I think I baked it at one point too?

[Gone Fission]

I'm guessing this is more up pd~'s alley than Tom's, but if either know:
The XP pedals are built on the IVL DSP chips, same as the IPS-33b, right? Is it even in the range of possibility to EPROM-hack the Space Station sounds into the 33b that aren't on the 33b natively? Weird stuff to consider even working because it's a much more involved platform and plug and play dumping of XP algorithms and coding could map, er, oddly if at all.