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gnomethrone wrote:You need to establish dominance. Take a big swig off your highball glass, flick your cigarette butt at that parent's chest and just stare 'em in the eyes. Are you yelling at the refs and waving your arms enough?
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hbombgraphics wrote:Been coaching club soccer at the youth level for about 2-3 years now and coached locally before that. Currently coach U14B and we are practicing for spring outdoor leagues.
Was approached by a parent last night who was concerned that his son might quit because he doesn't like being made to run. Specifically he doesn't like when the entire group is made to run because one kid is misbehaving.
How this unfolded last night was as follows. We had 15 min for a scrimmage at the end of practice, teams were divided quickly as we had already sorted players to work on set pieces. I placed the ball in the center and was about to start the scrimmage when I noticed 1 player was riding around on his teammates back. Immediately I had everyone run sprints, nothing major just one set and then back to the game. Was then approached by this dad after practice because I shouldn't punish the whole team when some kids are goofing off. I did apologize but pointed out that we didn't do end of practice sprints, which we would have. I think I said "running was inevitable but I could see how this would be viewed as poorly timed" I know that's a shit apology. Should be noted his son is about a year behind the other kids his age and always dead last by a large margin in running drills.
Question as follows:
Should you punish the entire team when a few kids misbehave?
My logic is as follows.
1. This encourages kids to discipline themselves a bit, maybe next time one kid is on someone's back I won't have to do anything because the other players will tell them to cut it out.
2. This is how life works, if you do dumb stuff it impacts the people around you. At some point you have to learn this.
3. Club soccer isn't free, parents pay club fees, practice fees, league fees and purchase uniforms and equipment. If anyone should be pissed that practice is being disrupted it should be the people who invest so much in a sport for their kids.
Appreciate anyone's thoughts on any of the above.
fuzzonaut wrote:hbombgraphics wrote:Been coaching club soccer at the youth level for about 2-3 years now and coached locally before that. Currently coach U14B and we are practicing for spring outdoor leagues.
Was approached by a parent last night who was concerned that his son might quit because he doesn't like being made to run. Specifically he doesn't like when the entire group is made to run because one kid is misbehaving.
How this unfolded last night was as follows. We had 15 min for a scrimmage at the end of practice, teams were divided quickly as we had already sorted players to work on set pieces. I placed the ball in the center and was about to start the scrimmage when I noticed 1 player was riding around on his teammates back. Immediately I had everyone run sprints, nothing major just one set and then back to the game. Was then approached by this dad after practice because I shouldn't punish the whole team when some kids are goofing off. I did apologize but pointed out that we didn't do end of practice sprints, which we would have. I think I said "running was inevitable but I could see how this would be viewed as poorly timed" I know that's a shit apology. Should be noted his son is about a year behind the other kids his age and always dead last by a large margin in running drills.
Question as follows:
Should you punish the entire team when a few kids misbehave?
My logic is as follows.
1. This encourages kids to discipline themselves a bit, maybe next time one kid is on someone's back I won't have to do anything because the other players will tell them to cut it out.
2. This is how life works, if you do dumb stuff it impacts the people around you. At some point you have to learn this.
3. Club soccer isn't free, parents pay club fees, practice fees, league fees and purchase uniforms and equipment. If anyone should be pissed that practice is being disrupted it should be the people who invest so much in a sport for their kids.
Appreciate anyone's thoughts on any of the above.
I don't think "group punishment" does any good. It doesn't help the team spirit, kids just get angry at each other. Besides, this is not the army, soccer is a game that should be fun, especially at this age.
If two of them think it's funny to do the piggy-back thing, why not roll with it and make them play the scrimmage this way? That might teach them (and the others) and everybody has a laugh.
And for the kid who doesn't like to run: that's pretty funny he's even there, running is elemental to soccer, unless you're the goalkeeper.
So, next time there's running, put him into the goal and hammer one million super hard shots his way ... he might like running better afterwards.
Good luck .... and don't go modular!
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
hbombgraphics wrote:Question as follows:
Should you punish the entire team when a few kids misbehave?
My logic is as follows.
1. This encourages kids to discipline themselves a bit, maybe next time one kid is on someone's back I won't have to do anything because the other players will tell them to cut it out.
2. This is how life works, if you do dumb stuff it impacts the people around you. At some point you have to learn this.
3. Club soccer isn't free, parents pay club fees, practice fees, league fees and purchase uniforms and equipment. If anyone should be pissed that practice is being disrupted it should be the people who invest so much in a sport for their kids.
Appreciate anyone's thoughts on any of the above.
sears wrote:I love watching soccer but could never coach my kids. Props to you for coaching. What you did w/sprints is right. Did you see Biloxi Blues? Where the drill sergeant made everyone but the miscreant do extra exercises?
Participation trophies were part of growing up in the 70s and 80s. If there were no participation trophies, I'd'a got no trophies.
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
hbombgraphics wrote:making all the kids run made sense in the context that the two goofing off would have spiraled everyone into chaos the sprints they did actually took less time than it would have taken to calm them all down without running.
sears wrote:I love watching soccer but could never coach my kids. Props to you for coaching. What you did w/sprints is right. Did you see Biloxi Blues? Where the drill sergeant made everyone but the miscreant do extra exercises?
Participation trophies were part of growing up in the 70s and 80s. If there were no participation trophies, I'd'a got no trophies.
PanicProne wrote:Last night I spent a lot of energy on my reply in this thread. Now I read it and realise I've left out words and forgot to put certain details in there. Note to self: don't write long replies when tired.
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
hbombgraphics wrote:I do wonder though at one point in life do people learn that their actions impact other people? It seems like something that people may not be learning at all anymore.
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